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« on: November 30, 2009, 05:14:57 PM »
Notre Dame fires Weis after another dismal season
Published - Nov 30 2009 06:52PM EST
By TOM COYNE - AP Sports Writer


SOUTH BEND, Ind.— Charlie Weis arrived at Notre Dame flashing Super Bowls rings and talking about outscheming opponents. He leaves one of college football's most prestigious programs without even matching the record of the two men who were fired before him.

Athletic director Jack Swarbrick announced the decision to fire Weis on Monday.

"For many of you who may have thought that was a foregone conclusion, I would say to you that the decision was harder than you might have thought, principally because of the man it involved," Swarbrick said during a news conference on campus.

Swarbrick said there was a huge gulf between the coach's brash image and personal style. But he still recommended to the Rev. John Jenkins, Notre Dame's president, on Sunday night that Weis be let go with six years left on his contract. Weis finishes with a 35-27 record in five seasons, among the worst of any Fighting Irish coach.

"He will go on to have great success. He'll add some Super Bowl rings to the ones he already has as a successful coordinator in the NFL and we will miss him," Swarbrick said. "But for us it's time to move forward. It's time to move forward because it is critical to this program and to its place in the university and college football that we compete at the highest level. That we compete for national championships."
Assistant head coach Rob Ianello will step in for Weis until a new coach is hired.

The Fighting Irish (6-6) are eligible to play in a bowl game, but Swarbrick has said he wants to hear from the players before deciding if Notre Dame will go to a minor postseason game.

Following a 6-2 start this season, Notre Dame began a winless November with the second upset by Navy in three years. Then came losses to Pittsburgh and to Connecticut in double overtime on senior day in South Bend. By the time the Irish lost their season-finale to Stanford on Saturday, it seemed inevitable Weis would be gone.

Speculation about possible replacements for Weis has been rampant for weeks. Among the top names mentioned, Florida's Urban Meyer and Oklahoma's Bob Stoops already have said they plan to stay where they are.

Speaking on a conference call Monday, Stoops said: "I'm going to be at Oklahoma next year, so I can't be at two places at once."

Cincinnati's Brian Kelly has also been mentioned, along with Stanford's Jim Harbaugh and TCU's Gary Patterson.

A self-confident offensive coordinator with the NFL champion New England Patriots when he was hired, Weis raised Irish expectations with back-to-back appearances in BCS bowl games in his first two seasons.
Since then, though, Notre Dame has gone 16-21 _ the most losses by the Irish in a three-year span.
Weis' record is worse than his two predecessors, Tyrone Willingham and Bob Davie, who also were fired. Notre Dame is now looking to hire its fifth coach this decade.

Weis received a new 10-year contract midway through his first season, shortly after a thriller against top-ranked USC that ended in a 34-31 Notre Dame loss.

Even though the Irish fell short, playing nearly even with Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush and the mighty Trojans had the Notre Dame faithful hopeful they had found a coach capable of returning the program to its past glories. The Fighting Irish have won eight AP national titles, more than any other school, but none since 1988.

Yet the USC loss turned out to be the highlight of Weis' tenure. Because it began so promisingly, Weis' final three seasons in South Bend were especially painful for the legion of Fighting Irish supporters nationwide.

"There were a lot of expectations he didn't live up to. He admitted to that," said former Notre Dame wide receiver David Grimes, who played four seasons for Weis and was on campus working out Monday. "But it's sad to see."

With Brady Quinn, Jeff Samardzija and other key players gone in 2007, the Irish started 0-5 for the first time in school history. They finished 3-9, leaving Weis one loss shy of matching Davie's school record of 16 losses in his first three seasons.

Most shocking, though, was the fact the Irish finished last in the NCAA in total offense just three years after Weis said at his introductory news conference that when it comes to X's and O's "we have the greatest advantage."

The past two seasons the Irish have collapsed in November. They got off to a 5-2 start before going 1-4 down the stretch a year ago, before ending this season with four losses, none by no more than a touchdown.

"I'm disappointed," former Notre Dame player Asaph Schwapp said. "It's definitely sad to see. I loved being coached by him."

Notre Dame fans who celebrated Weis' cockiness when he was winning grew tired of his Jersey attitude when the Irish started losing, with many calling him arrogant.

His biggest failure, however, was his team's inability to play good defense. The Irish never finished higher than 39th in the country in total defense and gave up big play after big play. Weis' teams lost six games by 26 points or more.

The now-former coach appeared to know his firing was imminent, saying a day after the loss to Connecticut on Nov. 21 that he would have a hard time arguing against his dismissal "because 6-5 is not good enough" _ an echo of his words when he took the job.

Whoever replaces Weis will be charged with ending the longest title drought in school history.

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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2009, 07:19:13 PM »
grumbles.. well this is what notredame gets for hiring a coach that was on a staff of cheaters.. and I liked Weis
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2009, 10:03:18 PM »
No coach will be successful at ND until the powers that be get their damn noses and fingers out of the program and allow the coach to actually coach.

Their demand for a bowl and titles overides the necessity to build a football system from the ground up in order to be successful for years to come.

Expect two to three mediocre or even losing seasons from every new coach as he rebuilds. Then as the team matures it will also grow in their on-field presence. You will always lose seniors, and that does hurt. But when allowed to build a true program, the underclassmen will be ready to step up each year and continue the tradition.

Charlie was never given this opportunity. The first couple years it was demanded he play and focus on his upperclassmen and get a bowl. Then they graduated, and during the demanding seasons he was unable to focus on the program of up and coming players. So naturally they will not be undefeated powerhouse teams. He has been playing catchup the last several seasons because of this.

Charlie will continue coaching if he wishes to. The man has talent and will be picked up.

But for the sake of whomever takes the coaching job at ND... I hope they understand what they are getting into. They will be coach in name only.... while the athletic director, the alumni, and the financial board calls all the plays.

If ND wants a winning team that will bring home a title... step off and get the fuck out of the program and allow the coach to coach.

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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2009, 08:42:05 AM »
Amen Brother
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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2009, 05:57:08 PM »
I saw the announcement today on ESPN and I just had to sit there and shake my head. First of all, two years is not enough time to determine if anyone is able to do the job, it takes at least three (3) years for a coach to come into the program and learn the steps, and then turn around and teach the team as well as coach the players. Weis wasn't given this chance, it was either do it now or get the hell out.

Though I have this feeling that ND won't learn their lesson until they go through two or three more coaches, then when no one wants to step up and apply for the vacant position, they will sit around and play the blame game, until they finally get it through their heads that they need to step back and be the observers and let the new coach, if they can find one, do his job. I don't have much hope of this happening, but we can all dream, right?

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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2009, 12:10:00 PM »
Went to espn on my phone just now and one of the headlines was if notre dame gets a bowl bid they are going to turn it down.   Wow how far have they come to turning down bowl bids from being a national championship contender from my childhood.   Screw it I'm rooting for USC
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2009, 05:41:06 PM »
Did anyone feel that but me? It was Rockne turning over in his grave.

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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2009, 05:53:09 PM »
-wishes i knew football, and not rugby about now-  ;D
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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2009, 06:53:45 PM »
Did anyone feel that but me? It was Rockne turning over in his grave.


~holds up hand~ I did, and it wasn't just a single turn, it was many!!

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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2009, 09:46:48 PM »
Notre Dame did NOT recieve a bid to a bowl
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2009, 08:48:01 PM »
well the coach they got did recieve a bowl bid.... they Hired the coach Of Cincinati.. this opens a whole new can of worms
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2009, 09:10:58 PM »
from the reports posted online.... the kids of that Cinncy team are crushed.. just crushed that he would dare leave before the sugar bowl... and I have to agree with them... you don't up and leave like that when you worked your ass off with a group of young people and they have acheived what they did
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2009, 09:33:38 PM »
That aloone would be reason enough for me to pass on him. Will he do the same to the Irish for a better offer?

Its bad when a coach loses respect during a season with a team, but in my eyes.... Kelly has blown any chance at respect before he even gets started.

ND.... WTF are you thinking??!!!

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