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Title: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: RAGNAR on January 11, 2010, 02:43:41 PM

2 Navy SEALs' detainee abuse trials moved to Iraq
Published - Jan 11 2010 04:39PM EST
By LARRY O'DELL - Associated Press Writer



RICHMOND, Va.— Two Navy SEALs accused in the mistreatment of an Iraqi detainee should be tried at the U.S. base in Iraq where the alleged victim is being held, a military judge ruled Monday.

Cmdr. Tierney Carlos moved the trials after government prosecutors said they would make the detainee available for deposition at Camp Victory in Baghdad but would not bring him to Naval Station Norfolk to testify. The judge ruled that Petty Officer 2nd Class Jonathan Keefe of Yorktown, Va., and Petty Officer 1st Class Julio Huertas of Blue Island, Ill., have a right to face their accuser in open court.

A hearing for a third defendant, Petty Officer 2nd Class Matthew McCabe of Perrysburg, Ohio, is tentatively set for Wednesday before a different judge.

McCabe is accused of punching Ahmed Hashim Abed, the suspected mastermind of a 2004 ambush that killed four U.S. security contractors in Fallujah. The contractors' bodies were dragged through the streets and hung from a bridge.

McCabe and the other two SEALs also are charged with dereliction of duty for failing to protect the detainee, and with lying to investigators. Huertas also is charged with impeding the investigation.

The SEALs have received an outpouring of support from people who consider them heroes for capturing Abed. Several members of Congress have asked that the charges be dropped, and more than 100,000 people have joined a Facebook page created to support the SEALs.

Huertas' attorney, Monica Lombardi, said she welcomed the judge's decision.

"We were going to have to travel there to do the deposition anyway, but the government said the witness wasn't going to be available for trial," Lombardi told The Associated Press. "The judge said, 'I'm thinking they should all be moved there.' I can see the logic in his ruling."

Military officials originally wanted to handle the case through a process known as "nonjudicial punishment," but the SEALs insisted on going to trial in an effort to clear their names and save their careers. If convicted by a six-person military jury, they could face up to a year in jail, a bad conduct discharge or loss of pay.

Title: Re: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: Raziel on January 11, 2010, 05:57:18 PM

Sad dont you think, that if you punch a scumbag, you get trumped up on charges.  I know exactly how they feel.  Had I known in the past what I know now, I would have went their route as well.

I support their actions fully.

Raz/Tim

Support your Special Operations Soldier...
"When a scumbag just has to be ghosted, you never saw us."
"Reach out and touch someone"
"One shot, from an unknown spot...One kill, because of my skill"

"Rangers Lead the Way"
Sua Sponte

Title: Re: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: Shylina Marie on January 11, 2010, 06:15:27 PM

Sadly enough this is a trait for the Navy and the Marine Corp... they give you a set of rules and you follow them.    only to be trumped up on a charge because of doing said job.  Its a War for heavens sake.  They caught a person responsible for a cruel and vicious act.

They have my support in full.

Shylina/ Tina  BM3(SW) USN RETIRED

Title: Re: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: Medi on January 11, 2010, 06:33:50 PM

I asked my son what he thought of this development, and he showed his full Marine vocabulary.  I agreed, and surprised him with my 'Lawyeress' vocabulary...and my anger was directed at the assholes who are prosecuting those heros.  We are surely doomed, as a Nation, when we turn on those who risk their lives to protect us.  May God place those who are prosecuting those fine men into a special place in Hell.  And may those, above them, who are pressing the charges, (and I include the Commander in Chief), share their accommodations.

I am sorry if I have offended anyone, but that is how I feel.

Leda

Title: Re: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: RAGNAR on January 11, 2010, 06:40:19 PM

I would be up on charges if it were me...

"OOOOPS... shot trying to escape Sir. Tried to drag the body in for identification but to much happening. Hanged his body from a bridge strictly for ID purposes Sir."

These Men should be given medals. Those pushing the charges should be hanged for treason in aiding the enemy.

Title: Re: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: Medi on January 15, 2010, 05:48:03 PM

I really believe that we are doomed, as a Nation.

At our last Blue Star Mom's meeting, we had a young soldier visit with us.  He was a Sniper, and was home for a while from Afghanistan.  He had earned another combat medal, which occurred when his patrol was ambushed.  They abandoned their vehicles, and crouched behind them.  According to the new ROE's, they radioed in, discussed what what happening, and then were GIVEN PERMISSION to return fire!  They split up into teams, flanked the bastards, and soon took them out. 

I have heard that another one of our heros, an Army Ranger, has been imprisoned for killing a terrorist.  I am going to look into that one, apparently the Court Martial excluded witnesses and experts that would have shown that the Prosecutions case didn't make sense.  The family of the solder paid out 200K in defense costs, out of their own money...but the Government has unlimited funds.  Why would anyone volunteer to defend our Country, these days?

Things have really turned upside down.

Leda

Title: Re: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: RAGNAR on January 15, 2010, 06:04:29 PM

This is the price for an unearned Peace Prize.

Title: Re: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: Raziel on January 17, 2010, 09:09:34 AM

Being SpecOps Soldier myself, these "efforts" at peace are a slap in the face to those of us that have trained to become America's Elite fighting force.  Sure when I went to Sniper School, as part of my Ranger Recon unit, we would have to call in our target acquisition and wait for the go ahead when we had a clear shot but still, when fired upon, you return fire, regardless. 

Retards.  That is what politics are full of.  Wetauded.

Raz

Title: Re: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: Sidona on January 17, 2010, 01:40:16 PM

Quote from: Raziel on January 17, 2010, 09:09:34 AM

Retards.  That is what politics are full of.  Wetauded.

Raz

Agreed

Title: Re: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: Raziel on May 04, 2010, 08:20:36 AM

"Despite the exoneration of Navy SEALs Julio Huertas and Jonathan Keefe in separate trials in Camp Victory in Iraq last week, and despite calls from the public for the dropping of charges against Matthew McCabe, there have been no signs that something of that sort will happen before Monday."

http://blog.usnavyseals.com/2010/04/support-rallies-for-navy-seal-matthew-mccabe-still-on.html (http://blog.usnavyseals.com/2010/04/support-rallies-for-navy-seal-matthew-mccabe-still-on.html)

2 Down, one more to go...

Let's keep them in our prayers

Raz

Title: Re: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: Taryn on May 04, 2010, 09:46:57 AM

Always!

Title: Re: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: RAGNAR on May 04, 2010, 08:50:55 PM

Oh yeah!!!

Title: Re: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: familure{TD} on May 05, 2010, 12:25:16 PM

Prosecution Rests in Navy SEAL Matthew McCabe’s Court Martial
May 5, 2010 - 3:04 PM | by: Steve Centanni

NORFOLK -The prosecution has rested its case in the military trial of 24 year old Matthew McCabe, the Navy SEAL accused of assaulting a suspected terrorist he had helped capture last September in Iraq. Ahmed Hashim Abed, accused of killing four american contractors in Fallujah six years ago, claims he was beaten while in the custody of McCabe and two other Navy SEALs.

Earlier, as prosecutors called their witnesses, Navy Petty Officer Third Class Kevin Demartino, who is not a SEAL, testified that he saw McCabe deliver a "right punch to the chest" of his detainee.

Demartino was in charge of the detention facility where the disputed incident occurred, and was responsible for the prisoner's safety. He testified that after he witnessed the assault, three Navy SEALs left the detainee's cell. Demartino says Abed had fallen from his chair to the floor and there was blood coming from under the prisoner's hood.

A Navy commander who was in charge of all American forces in Fallujah at the time, also testified today. He says he noticed Abed's bloodied mouth the next morning and asked Demartino what had happened, but didn't get an answer.

Asked on cross examination why he said nothing at first about the alleged assault, he told the court "I had a choice of being in good graces with the Navy SEALs or being in good graces with God." Demartino admits he's guilty of dereliction of duty for not immediately reporting what he saw.

Abed is the alleged mastermind of the grisly attack on four Blackwater contractors who were ambushed and killed in Fallujah, Iraq in 2004. Their bodies were burned and dragged through the streets as crowds cheered. Two of the bodies were hanged from a bridge over the Euphrates River.

This is the second day of testimony in the case of McCabe, the Navy SEAL from Perrysberg, Ohio. A seven member jury is hearing the case, presided over by a Judge Advocate General, Captain Moira Modelewski. Two other SEALs faced trial in Baghdad and were found not guilty last month. Demartino gave the same testimony in those earlier trials.

Abed's taped testimony was heard in open court Tuesday. He said he was handcuffed and blindfolded and placed on a chair in the holding cell. He claims he was hit on the back and shoulders and knocked to the floor. He says he was kicked in the stomach and sworn at while he was down. But he says he could only see one person's feet and legs from under his hood and cannot identify his assailant.

The defense claims Al Qaeda detainees are trained to claim abuse and that Abed caused his own lip to bleed.

Abed testified in person during the previous two trials, but the defense in this case declined the opportunity to confront the accuser in court. If McCabe's lawyers had wanted Abed to testify in person, the trial would have been held in Iraq, where Abed remains a prisoner of the Iraqi government.

In his testimony Wednesday, Petty Officer Demartino said two of the Navy SEALs in the holding cell at the time of the alleged assault basically told him not to worry about any injuries to Abed. On the witness stand, Demartino says he was told by Pettty Officer 2nd Class Jonathan Keefe, "Don't feel bad for this guy." And, according to Demartino, Petty Officer 1st Class Julio Huertas said, "He's killed Americans." Keefe and Huertas are the two SEALs earlier acquitted in this case.

http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/05/05/prosecution-rests-in-navy-seal-matthew-mccabes-court-martial/?test=latestnews (http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/05/05/prosecution-rests-in-navy-seal-matthew-mccabes-court-martial/?test=latestnews)

Title: Re: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: Raziel on May 05, 2010, 05:35:06 PM

By Kate Wiltrout
The Virginian-Pilot
© May 5, 2010
NORFOLK


Lt. Nicholas Kadlec opened the government's case against Petty Officer 2nd Class Matthew McCabe by reciting a few lines from the Navy SEAL creed.

"The ability to control my emotions and my actions, regardless of circumstance, sets me apart from other men."

"Uncompromising integrity is my standard."

"I am always ready to defend those who are unable to defend themselves."

McCabe failed to live up to those standards last September, Kadlec said, when he punched a handcuffed, hooded Iraqi detainee and let him lie bleeding on the floor shortly after his capture.

The 24-year-old sailor, a member of SEAL Team 10 at Joint Expeditionary Base Little Creek in Virginia Beach, is being court-martialed on three misdemeanor charges: assaulting alleged Iraqi terrorist Ahmed Hashim Abed, failing to protect him, and lying to investigators.

McCabe pleaded not guilty to all charges. If convicted, he could face a bad-conduct discharge and a year in jail.

"This starts as a story you don't want to believe, and it becomes a story you have to believe," Kadlec said during opening arguments Tuesday. The prosecutor urged the seven-member jury - composed of three enlisted sailors and four officers - to find the "moral courage" to hold a decorated Navy SEAL accountable.

Neal Puckett, one of McCabe's defense lawyers, painted a very different picture of what occurred Sept. 1 after SEALs helped Iraqi police arrest Abed, whom he called "this terrorist, this insurgent, this mass murderer."

Abed is thought to have helped organize the murder of four American contractors in Fallujah in 2004. He's also been described as someone who recruited insurgents and helped finance and set up homemade bombs.

Puckett told jurors there will not be any scientific evidence linking McCabe to Abed's alleged injuries, and noted that Abed could not identify his attacker because he was blindfolded.

Some of the evidence prosecutors will present to show Abed's injuries, including a photo of the inside of his bruised lip, has a more reasonable explanation, Puckett said: a canker sore that the detainee chewed on in order to bloody his clothes and make it appear that he'd been hit.

By the end of the trial, which is expected to last at least two more days, the defense will have exceeded the standard of reasonable doubt required for the jury to acquit McCabe of the charges, Puckett said. "You're going to truly believe he's innocent - because he is."

Abed will not testify. But Tuesday afternoon, the jury listened to a recording of his deposition last month in Iraq.

At that proceeding, Abed responded to questions from prosecutors and McCabe's military defense lawyers about what happened the night he was arrested.

Through a translator, Abed described being woken up inside his Fallujah home by a team of Iraqis and Americans, put on a helicopter and taken to a succession of offices at a U.S. base.

Soon after he was taken into one office and sat in a chair, Abed said, someone started hitting him. He said the force of the blows knocked him to the ground, and after he was helped to his feet, someone began kicking him.

He said the violence lasted about five minutes.

Abed denied being involved with terrorist groups and said he learned about the 2004 contractor killings - and the burning and public display of the victims' bodies - by watching television.

In response to a question about $6,000 in U.S. currency found in his home the night of his arrest, Abed said it belonged to his mother, who he claimed sold her jewelry to pay for a planned pilgrimage to Mecca.

Abed testified in two related trials last month in Iraq. Petty Officer 1st Class Julio Huertas and Petty Officer 2nd Class Jonathan Keefe, both assigned to McCabe's unit, were acquitted of failing to protect the detainee.


http://hamptonroads.com/2010/05/opening-arguments-begin-navy-seal-case (http://hamptonroads.com/2010/05/opening-arguments-begin-navy-seal-case)

Title: Re: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: RAGNAR on May 05, 2010, 10:24:46 PM

So basically he claims he was beat to shit for five minutes.

The squealer claims the SEALS punched him in the chest.

The prosecutor wishes everyone to believe that it takes about five minutes to punch a guy in the chest and that causes a bruised lip to bleed.

The defense claims he chewed his lip to make it bleed and is trained to lie about abuses.

Hell.... everyone knows a suspected murderer and terrorist would never lie or bite his lip. After all... they are murderers, but deep down are really wonderful loving people.

Uh huh.

I say give all three SEALS medals and a job "WELL DONE"!!!

Crotchpunt the prosecutor in the marbles until his own mouth bleeds.

Charge the squealer with all charges that apply including lying under oath and TREASON. Give him a nice fair trial and then a nice hanging.

Then drag the murderer through the streets, set him on fire until medium rare, then slowly saw off his head and drop it in a port-a-jon before hanging his dead corpse from the same bridge by his nuts until the critters finish dining or he rots away and falls into the river. And just to be nice guys, serve him up a nice last meal of pork roast wrapped in bacon, pickled pigs feet, with a porn magazine to read over coffee, personally guarded by a female, barefoot guard with the soles of her feet propped on the table to be less formal. That same female Soldier may be his executioner as well so he cannot claim he doesn't know her. He will be familiar enough with her by the time she grabs him by the hair and yanks back his head and begins to saw.

Title: Re: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: Raziel on May 06, 2010, 09:29:09 AM

Prosecution's Star Witness in SEAL Case Discredited
by  Michelle Oddis

05/06/2010


NORFOLK, Va. -- The prosecution's star witness in the trial of a Navy SEAL charged with abusing a terror suspect was discredited when multiple witnesses testified that Petty Officer 3rd Class Kevin DeMartino had a motive for false accusations.

DeMartino, the only witness that said he saw the defendant strike the suspect, could face a dishonorable discharge for not performing his duties correctly when he was assigned to guard the terrorist, giving him motivation to lie on the stand, according to the case being built by the defense lawyers.

DeMartino’s job as a Master at Arms (MA) was to stay with the detainee at all times. A Navy photographer said when she came to take photos of the detainee “she could not find him anywhere.” The photographer was not the only witness to claim Wednesday that DeMartino was not where he was suppose to be that day.
 
Earlier DeMartino testified that he saw Petty Officer 2nd Class Matthew McCabe punch Ahmed Hashim Abed, the detained terrorist and suspected mastermind behind the brutal murders of four civilians in Fallujah. "It was a right-cross. He punched him in the stomach," said DeMartino. In his testimony he claims that other SEALs entered the room but McCabe was the only one he saw punch Abed.

Hours later a SEAL commander found Abed with blood on his chin and clothing. When he asked DeMartino what happened, he said DeMartino said “I don’t know.”

While under oath DeMartino admitted that he left the detainee twice while he was supposed to be watching him  -- once to get medical paperwork and once to stow his gun.

 While being cross examined by McCabe’s defense attorney Neal Puckett, DeMartino stated “All eyes are on me, he was in my responsibility.”

“At some point you knew that because of the blood people would point to you first, did you not?” asked Puckett “You were derelict in your duties?”
 
“Yes, I was, ” said DeMartino

Navy Reserve member Paul Franco, DeMartino’s supervisor on the camp, said that he had “reservations” about DeMartino’s “truthfulness.” Franco said that often DeMartino lied about completing tasks.
 
Franco testified that DeMartino came to him after the alleged incidents to talk. He was crying and visibly upset. “He told me ‘I hate this ****ing place, this guy is going to make a claim,” Franco said.

Franco, an 11-year Navy Reserves member, said that in prior weeks to the incident DeMartino was under more pressure due to extra work. He had noticed that DeMartino stopped working out and seemed to have lost motivation.

Franco testified that he directed DeMartino to talk to a commanding officer who was better qualified to deal with a claim of abuse by the detainee.
 
The photographer who testified she could not find DeMartino when she needed to take her photos of Abed, said that DeMartino sought her advice as well.
 
She testified that she saw DeMartino upset and that “he said his life was over,” “he said he couldn’t eat or sleep.” DeMartino talked with several of the witnesses who claim they saw him panicked and that he talked of wanting to be a California Highway Patrol Officer and that his chances could be ruined.

A SEAL commander whose name cannot be revealed due to his active service testified that while he walked with Abed to hand him over to the Iraqi’s he noticed him “sucking on his lip, and spitting blood.”
 
“Was he feigning injury?” asked Puckett.

“He appeared to be hamming it up,” answered the commander.

Two medics also testified that when screening Abed and documenting their findings there did not appear to be any injuries. One medic said though that Abed claimed he was abused.
 
The court is expected to hear from more defense witnesses on Thursday, one of which will testify by telephone, and another that is expected to be an oral surgeon.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=36866 (http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=36866)

Raz

Title: Re: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: RAGNAR on May 06, 2010, 10:57:28 AM

What a loathsome creature.

Bring charges against him.

 >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: Raziel on May 07, 2010, 04:26:07 PM

Not guilty verdict in Navy SEAL case

SO2 Matthew McCabe cleared of all charges
Updated: Friday, 07 May 2010, 8:24 AM EDT
Published : Thursday, 06 May 2010, 8:01 AM EDT

By LARRY O'DELL Associated Press Writer
NORFOLK, Va. (AP) - The last of three Navy SEALs accused of abusing a suspected Iraqi terrorist was found not guilty Thursday by a military jury.

Jurors deliberated about an hour and 40 minutes before returning their verdict in the court-martial of Petty Officer 2nd Class Matthew McCabe.

"This feels amazing and great," McCabe told reporters after the verdict. "I'm just grateful all of us came out not guilty and justice was served."

McCabe was accused of punching Ahmed Hashim Abed in the stomach shortly after his capture last September in Iraq. The other two SEALs, who were accused of failing to protect Abed, were acquitted in trials last month in Baghdad.

Abed is suspected of plotting the 2004 slayings of four U.S. contractors in Fallujah. The bodies were dragged through the streets, burned and strung up from a bridge. He also is accused of crimes agagainst Iraqis.

The three SEALs received an outpouring of support from the public on the Internet, and at least 20 members of Congress urged Secretary of Defense Robert Gates to put a stop to the prosecution. Some critics said the prosecution was an overreaction to the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal.

But one of McCabe's lawyers, Haytham Faraj, said that "going ahead with all three courts-martial was really a good idea."

"No terrorist organization can claim that the American military didn't press forward and really investigate," Faraj said.

The military officer who ordered the court martial defended his decision.

"I allowed these charges to go forward because I truly believed that the best process known for uncovering the truth, when the facts are contested, is that process which is found in our adversarial justice sytem," said Army Maj. Gen. Charles Cleveland, the military's special operations commander.

Military prosecutors were not available for comment after the verdict, which came at the end of a four-day trial. Jurors heard audio taped testimony from Abed, who claimed he was blindfolded, handcuffed, beaten and kicked.

McCabe, 24, of Perrysburg, Ohio, showed little emotion when the verdict was read by the leader of the seven-member jury at Norfolk Naval Station, but he smiled broadly and embraced his four defense attorneys one by one after court was adjourned.

McCabe's father said he did not believe the case should have been prosecuted.

"These are the guys that preserve the American dream," said Martin McCabe of Las Vegas.

The sailor who was responsible for guarding Abed, Petty Officer 3rd Class Kevin DeMartino, testified that he saw McCabe deliver a right cross to Abed's midsection while two other SEALs stood by and did nothing.

However, several witnesses -- including SEALs and intelligence officers who cannot be publicly identified -- contradicted portions of DeMartino's testimony as the defense tried to discredit him. They also depicted DeMartino as emotionally unstable and unhappy with his deployment.

A Navy prosecutor said in closing arguments that SEALs were trying to protect one of their own.

"They circled the wagons," said Lt. Cmdr. Jason Grover. "They don't want Petty Officer McCabe to be held responsible for this."

Faraj said that was untrue.

"Everybody has to be lying for the government's case to be believed," he told the jury.

McCabe's trial was held in Virginia, where his SEAL team is based, because unlike the other two SEALS he did not insist on confronting his accuser in court. He could have received up to a year in jail if convicted.

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The complete statement from Maj. Gen. Charles Cleveland, the Special court-martial convening authority, issued after the verdict Thursday::

"I take my responsibility as a commander and convening authority very seriously and did not make the decision to refer these charges to courts-martial lightly. While I had preferred to handle the incident administratively, Petty Officers Huertas, McCabe and Keefe exercised their right to have this matter handled by a court-martial. The evidence presented reasonable grounds to believe that offenses had been committed and that Petty Officers Huertas, McCabe, and Keefe had committed those offenses. In the interests of justice and to maintain good order and discipline, I chose to proceed with the courts-martial.

"I would like to extend my thanks and appreciation to the Naval Officers and Sailors who served as members in these cases. They were given a difficult duty and accomplished it in a very professional manner. I would also like to extend my sincere appreciation to the military trial and defense counsel, as well as to the civilian defense counsel, who handled this case. Their efforts in pursuing the interests of justice and protecting the rights of the Sailors accused in these cases are outstanding examples of their dedication to protecting and defending our Constitution.

"Despite the opinion of some of those who preferred that these charges not proceed, I allowed these charges to go forward because I truly believe that the best process known for uncovering the truth, when the facts are contested, is that process which is found in our adversarial justice system. There is no better way to discover the truth than by presenting evidence to an unbiased panel of members, having witnesses testify under oath, and having that testimony subject to vigorous cross-examination.

"Incidents such as the ones alleged in this case carry strategic implications for U.S. forces and U.S. National Security and ultimately cost the lives of Americans. I will continue to take allegations such as this seriously, investigating them whenever they are brought to my attention, and acting on them when the evidence so dictates. I look forward to SO1 (SEAL) Huertas, SO2(SEAL) McCabe, and SO2(SEAL) Keefe returning to their Team and continuing their duties in defending our great Nation."

Lt. Col. Holly Silkman, spokesman for Special Operations Command Central, added, "General Cleveland is satisfied that the military justice process has been executed fairly and that thorough due process was carried out during the course of these three trial proceedings, consistent with the rule of law and the values of U.S. military justice that we fight to preserve as members of the U.S. military and as American citizens."


http://www.wavy.com/dpp/military/Navy-SEAL-abuse-trial-winding-down (http://www.wavy.com/dpp/military/Navy-SEAL-abuse-trial-winding-down)

A-freakin-men

Raz

Title: Re: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: Medi on May 07, 2010, 04:37:05 PM

http://www.wavy.com/dpp/military/Navy-SEAL-abuse-trial-winding-down

A-freakin-men

Raz


I second the prayer, Raziel.  Thank you for staying on top of this and posting the excerpts.  I still am very unhappy that those Seals and their families had to go through this, our current system is really f**ked up.  We are at war, we need to treat those who are trying to protect us better.

Medi

Title: Re: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: Taryn on May 07, 2010, 05:13:27 PM

This was the only verdict they should have returned with and I for one, am extremely happy that the three of them will be able to continue on with their military careers and be able to put this behind them once and for all... Thoughts and prayers do work, this has been proven time and time again, and this is a perfect example of such happening yet again...

Title: Re: 2 Navy SEALs' ........
Post by: RAGNAR on May 07, 2010, 08:32:29 PM

I am just concerned now with the safety of their families now that this media circus is winding down. Too many screwballs here in the US that could potentially retaliate against their families for a job well done against one of their screwball heroes.   :-\ :'(