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Gorean Roleplay => Tuchuk Wagon Camp => MTC IC => Topic started by: Raziel on January 17, 2006, 08:37:45 AM

Title: Attn Tuchuk
Post by: Raziel on January 17, 2006, 08:37:45 AM
I address my home and family out of concern for their well being.  During times of trials and tribulations, we are still a family, there is still a bond there.  Some of us do not always make the right decisions and sometimes some of us hurt those we love.  I ask that my family take these words and think about them.  Without your support over the years, certainly, I may not have recovered from my own demons.  Lend support when you can or even a simple ear or a nod.  You never know when one of the home actually needs it.  As much as it pains me to do things that may cause dissent or a loss of respect, we all make sacrifices and for the over all balance of home, Family is more important than even my own reputation.  No matter what, no matter who you are or where you have come from, You are ALL still very much loved.  Yes, I said loved by me.  That is all.

Sign off.

Raz
Title: Re: Attn Tuchuk
Post by: LadyMuse on January 17, 2006, 08:54:01 AM
*reads and agrees totally*

  A/all are loved by Me as well.


LM
Title: Re: Attn Tuchuk
Post by: Sati on January 17, 2006, 09:06:17 AM
-nods solemnly-

There are a few people I love round here..a few I respect..even fewer I admire..but all in all I love MTC.  
Title: Re: Attn Tuchuk
Post by: just me on January 17, 2006, 09:12:48 AM
reads this and wonders how can she show love to one and not betray the other right now and just slips away staying silent and no emotions at all
Title: Re: Attn Tuchuk
Post by: kadi{MTC} on January 17, 2006, 09:24:27 AM
soli by standing by Him you love, the F/family that truely love you will understand why and still love you as i do always know that sis
Title: Re: Attn Tuchuk
Post by: Danial on January 17, 2006, 09:50:21 AM
*scratches my beard* Well said Raziel
Title: Re: Attn Tuchuk
Post by: Taryn on January 17, 2006, 11:20:15 AM
~reads and nods in agreement~

Sometimes family may do something to push that love you have for them to the limits, but understand that the path they are trying to walk away from is hard.. I have seen many in this home over the past few years I have been here make mistakes, it doesn't make me love them less, never has and never will...
Title: Re: Attn Tuchuk
Post by: Amantha on January 17, 2006, 01:15:02 PM
Smothing I leared about family from My marriage..

I come from a large family of 9 kids and except for me everyone lives about an hour apart, some even next door neighbors and we can go months even years without even saying hi, we have never said I love you to each other, and hugs are reserved for weddings or funerals. But if any are in trouble or have a crisis then then the support is overwhelming, and you know your back is covered.

Now in contrast, My husband comes from a family with 4 kids. The family fight like cats and dogs sometimes, but they cannot go a week without finding out how the others are doing.  Each conversations ends with I love You and hugs, but if a crisis develops or they are needed they are not to be found. 

What My husband and I have realized is that the best house combines these two families.  Expression of emotions is a good thing, when you know love is the basis behind it all, and no matter how much you wish to hide during tough times, the best of families get in the dirt and find that solution and never stop supporting each other. To Me this is Tuchuk...
Title: Re: Attn Tuchuk
Post by: Faramir on January 17, 2006, 02:24:38 PM
Have no doubt that I love My Family and My Home and everyone on that is a part of MTC.  Of course, there are those I love and respect more then others but then that is the way it is in all families.  Still, I love this Family and will remain with it for the long haul, remaining until either the Valkries carry Me to Vahalla or I am ordered to leave by Ragnar.  Though not always present in camp with My Family, My heart is there.  I love Y/you A/all.

JEB
Title: Re: Attn Tuchuk
Post by: ~Dylan~ on January 17, 2006, 03:46:07 PM
Before I decided to reply to this I thought long and hard as My Brother had asked Me to do.  I closed My eyes and envisioned what it felt like to have the broad shoulders to carry the weight of the entire Family on My back as Raziel, and Ubar often do.  To comprehend the weight I thought of how many bosk were out on the plains, and how many people, Free, and slave alike were about Tuchuk, and what it meant to have their own welfare, hopes, and dreams all piled up, and then to carry them not only through the best of times, but through the hardest, and most painful. 

   I am, and always have been a natural born leader.  Through one reason or another, I have been thrust into a command role, or out of necessity taken it upon my own shoulders to bear the burden, but seldom if ever have I taken on such an arduous task as what it means to be leader here on Gor.  I, desiring to be a proper role-model attempt to act as if I am a true Male of Gor.  One of the Scarlet Caste, a Warrior, and for the past year + I have been a Tuchuk.  I know I am often seen as a hard ass, someone who at times may seem unapproachable, or uncaring, where this is simply untrue, I am simply attempting to react in a manner that is Gorean.  I have attempted, at times successfully, at others not, but attempted all the same to Master first myself.  I believe that before one is capable of taming a slave they must first know they are capable of being in control of themselves, and I maintain how important this can be.  I am not known to coddle slaves, but am quick with a compliment in situations warranting one.  I am free with my knowledge of Gor, my love for this world complete, and my love for my family powerful.  This is why I try and maintain what I feel Gor, and Tuchuk represent, each enigmas, and our leadership in turn are enigmas. 

   Raziel, in you there is a man that I am honored to attempt to emulate.  Your steadfast, and when needed iron-fist approach to Tuchuk life.  You have turned and faced your demons, and in turn have shown your inner tenacity.    In a time where Gor is filled with chest beating, self-absorbed  so-called Ubars, and more topping-from the bottoming slaves then fallen Kassar after a battle with Tuchuk forces, you stand apart as a Man of Honor, of integrity, and should the call come from Odin, I will gladly go knowing that you will someday join me in the Great Hall, where Warriors are Honored forever, and ever.

   Ragnar, in turn as I have said to Raziel, I am honored to have such stalwart leadership in you.  You have been through times of trouble, and yet you have endured.  You are truly the Ubar-San, having never compromised your personal views even when they were unpopular, ever vigilant in protecting your people.   You tie both old Gorean ways, with newer ways, trying to bring together two cultural, and social contrasting groups of people, who in many ways are fervent about their personal favorite of the two.  Born of Torvaldsland, and Ubar of Tuchuk, you have been nothing but supportive of me since I came asking to be part of your Home.  As I have said many times before, I, am Honored…

   To the rest of my family, to those of Council, Free Man, Free Woman, and slave alike, each of you have a place within me.  When I dream, I dream of the Turian plains, and I dream of you.  Know you are always loved, and will always be loved even should I fall, know I smile looking down on you from Odin’s Hall…

~Dylan~
~Askari~
~Warrior Poet~
Title: Re: Attn Tuchuk
Post by: kelsey on January 17, 2006, 04:10:21 PM
I really don't have much to add other than family is family through good times and bad....everyone makes mistakes...if we didn't, how would we grow and learn?......It says much for the character of a person who recognizes his/her mistakes, acknowledges them and then tries to learn from them...It also says much for the character of the person who forgives and helps someone move beyond their mistakes....

love to each and everyone...

kels{Kit}
Title: Re: Attn Tuchuk
Post by: prism {*RgR*1*} on January 17, 2006, 04:35:31 PM
I think that one thing that we do not outgrow as we get older is how we determine the boundaries of respect and love.

I loved my Poppa..I carry some of his ashes with me wherever I go in a little vial on a chain around my neck.  I love my Mom.. I will and always will even though we are miles apart and I know that she is Always there for me.. all I have to do is call and she is there...
I love Ubar.. I have since the first time I breathed His name.. kissed his lips and heard him call me "Mine".  I know that he would never allow me to come to any harm and even though we don't speak about it, I know he worries about what will happen to me if he cannot overcome all the health issues he faces daily..

Respect.. respect I learned from my father's thundering velvet hand. I was punished when I needed and deserved it. If he hadn't given a rat's ass about me, he would have let me run wild.. and I know that too.  My mother the same.. I respect her for what she has always done for her family, for her kids.. but she also instilled the sense of right and wrong, and facing the consequences of your actions. She always stood her ground and by God, we learned how to be responsible, respectful human beings.. (well, with the possible exception of my disowned younger brother  ;D )

Ubar is the same.. So is Master Raziel.. I remember one time when Master Raziel thought I had made an error, and He PM'ed me and said.. "You know, I have to bust you on this".. I replied, "Bust away.. If I need it.. give it"..
If he had not called me on that.. , I would not have loved him less, but I might have respected him less.

Discipline, and lessons do not nullify love.. they strengthen and reinforce it..

Title: Re: Attn Tuchuk
Post by: Amber on January 17, 2006, 07:05:23 PM
-reads and signs off, not able to find words right now-

Understood.
Title: Re: Attn Tuchuk
Post by: familure{TD} on January 17, 2006, 11:54:41 PM
~simply speechless at all the well said things from so Mmany~nodding softly as she leaves her mark~
Title: Re: Attn Tuchuk
Post by: Yahira on January 18, 2006, 09:06:42 AM
~smiles~  A long time ago, Raz made me promise never to tell anyone that he had a softer side, and now he goes and just displays it openly..  ~laughs~

Seriously, I have so many friends here, and I love each of you.  I've learned from you, I've leaned on you, and I hope that you've been able to do the same from me..  We all screw up, but we have to learn from it, and move forward..  We may fight, but we still manage to pull together when we need to..

Rags..  My friend who loves me, and will openly let me know if I am being an idiot..  yet love me anyway..  ~Laughs~ 

My training team divas..  I love each one of you so much.. 

Kar..  Words can't even begin to describe you and I, but the great thing is that you know without me having to say a word..

Raz...  I've never had more ups and downs with anyone, as I've had with you. ~laughs~  I've learned so much from you, not just as my master, but also as my friend..  You usually know me better than I know myself, which can be good and bad..  You always hold a special place with me.

This post could get REALLY long really quickly, so I am going to sum this up so that I am not late for my appointment.  I love you all..  more than you know.

Love,
Yaya


I do love ya'll..   ;)
Title: Re: Attn Tuchuk
Post by: Lady Snickers on January 18, 2006, 12:09:31 PM
I agree with everything that has been said
Title: Re: Attn Tuchuk
Post by: kadi{MTC} on January 18, 2006, 03:46:17 PM
with everything that has happened in the last few days she wishes to share two prayers that she found in her box of spirit things and she felt this was the best place to put them

Chamuel, angel of tolerance and unconditional love, hear my prayer.
Guide my deeds that i may ever recognise my own failings and overcome
them, and be tolerant of the failings of others, knowing that we all seek
to move towards our potential.
Help me to love myself and to radiate that love so that i appreciate
life in all its beauty, and ever strive to add to that beauty and create
love and happiness all about me without seeking to place
myself above others.


Beautiful Vesta, guardian of the sacred flame that keeps love alive in the home
bless me with your nurturing warmth to make my home ever a place of love and joy
like your virgin priestesses, may i always be devoted to protecting the flame of
true love, and steadfast as keeper of heart and hearth.
Holy Vesta, thou gracious queen, who warms us through the cold of winters darkness
i offer love to thee and ask for the light of your wisdom and steadfastness
to ever burn in my heart as i kindle my love like your eternal hearth.




to kadi both of these prayers are saying love is for always not just when things are going good, love within a family is there when things are bad as well

Title: Re: Attn Tuchuk
Post by: Tiggie on January 24, 2006, 08:07:55 AM
I sit here this morning and I once more read over this thread. You see this thread had been on my mind for a few days now. I will be the first to admit that I am the most stubborn person I knwo next to my best friend, whom we loving call Mouse ((Ubar finally found out why this past weekend *L*)) Her and I actually had a debate about some things said here and thoughts brought forward in both of Us by those things said.  I say this to better explain my ilrational thinking here. 

Her and I talked about the beginings for us both in Gor, both of us went down roads of our own choosing and well in the end we both ended up leaving. HOwever, I would return some years later. Mouse spoke of the Warriors of Her home where She was the Ubara with great Respect and fondness and She spoke hightly of their Honor.  I asked her if She would ever return to Gor, Her answer to Me was "No, because no one seems to know what it means to be family anymore on Gor."  I asked Her to explain what She ment, and of course for the next hour I got lectured on the value of Family. *L* That was the fun part. It was such a joy to see this Woman just slip so easily into Her "Ubara Robes" ( that's what I call it when She starts lecturing) and to see the compassion the leadership and the love She had for Her Stone and the Members of it both Free and slave.  Now You would be laughing if You had ever heard this Woman on the phone then to think of her lecturing. It's like a Mouse trying to chew out a Sleen.*L*

As I sat there and listened to Her, I was brought to the nights and days when I first came to Tuchuk, and the lessons that were lovingly taught to Me by My Brothers, My Sisters and even the slaves of this Home. I was used to the city life and was lost in a wagon camp.  Even now I'm lost at times but I know that I have FAMILY to turn to and can lean on and trust in that will help Me through this. Every time I am in camp I am seeing what She claims no longer exists. I sat the other night and watched as a Brother locked horns with another Brother, a Sister overwhelmed was offered a shoulder and an ear from a Sister, A Brother trying to console a Sister whom thought that Tuchuk was not a place for Her to call home any longer.  In all these though I seen People that though they naught share the same BLOOD in Their veins, They have the same love and care for each other and mayhaps MORE then Those that do.  I seen not a group of people but a Family that is bonded in the idea that WE ALL are from the same ground, the same bosk and the same great waters.  It reminded Me of how this FAMILY stood by and prayed for the safety of so many of Us both in camp and out of camp.

We may not always agree with each other, but hell if we did what fun would that be? It is NOT the fact that we fight that makes us wrong for each other, but the fact that we fight THROUGH the problems and in the end still stand with each other that makes us FAMILY!

I will always fight through to the other side with You A/all...for You are My Family!


"This game called life"
I am not very good
At this Game called Life
For I've not learned to see children crying
Without feeling pain
For I've not learned to watch animals destroyed
Without wondering why
For I've not yet met a king or celebrity
That I would bow down to
Or a man so insignificant
That I would use for a stepping-stone
For I've not learned to be a "yes man"
To narrow minded bosses
Who quote rules without reason
And I've not learned to manipulate
The feelings of others
To be used for my own advantages
Then cast aside as I see fit
No, I am not very good
At the Game called Life
And if everything goes well
Maybe I never will be

-Javan