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I found this on the AR Boards;
WebMaze is not closed..
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Gioco_Di_Ruolo - 7-31-2008 at 12:38 AM
Tal and greetings all,
Sorry but so many people have asked Me or said to Me that they thought WebMaze was close..its not
Main url WebMaze
Gorean Roleplay General Discussions
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Gioco_Di_Ruolo - 8-25-2008 at 06:21 PM
~~~~BuMps~~~~
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Mi§tral - 8-25-2008 at 06:50 PM
Ok why would you bump this up?
Never mind, no need to answer I can guess!
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Gioco_Di_Ruolo - 8-25-2008 at 06:53 PM
Tal Mi§tral
I bump'd it of WebMaze being down but not closed..
Thats why.....
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Mi§tral - 8-25-2008 at 11:10 PM
As I said there was no need to bother replying I really could care less about the place, and I was just to lazy to delete what I had already written.
Shut down, closed, it doesn't matter to me I never go to the place as a matter of fact any interest I had ended some time ago.
Now you have a darned good day ........ or NOT!
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Gioco_Di_Ruolo - 8-28-2008 at 08:11 AM
Tal Mi§tral
I am sorry You find the place as You do.. Too each their own... But I can understand I find many site's not to My liking or un Gorean it just the way things are.. But I don't judge people or homes by the site they live on or frequent.. To Me on every site there Maybe a Gorean.. So lately I tend to try to focus on My actions and not those of others..
I could be on any site and still be Gorean it makes no issue to Me…
I wish You Well
Gio
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Petorik - 9-5-2008 at 08:21 AM
I would say * it is obvious you are not of the old Goreans * nor were you involved prior to the mass exodus away from Webmaze… Brought about by the underhandedness of both Buddha and Ragnar…
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Phylsys - 9-5-2008 at 09:00 AM
Bellows low.
Tis good to see a post from someone I assumed had surrendered to the warnings of his physicians. I hope your beast of the "hat" is equally vivacious. Feels reassured that not all of the old standard has released his astute grip of the gorean situation.
[Edited on 9-5-2008 by Phylsys]
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Hesprit - 9-5-2008 at 04:02 PM
Webmaze exists. Nothing wrong with that, there are those who call WM home who had nothing to do with past events.
That's the thing, what happened is the past, it will not be changed and there is no need for it to be changed. There would be no point now.
The bottom line now is that there were Goreans, even those who did not get along so well, who reacted to events as Goreans, standing for what they believed in. Doesn't much matter how you word it, THAT WAS GOREAN. No big plans were needed, no secret agendas, simply a number of people made their choices for the reasons they felt were proper.
What I miss most of those days was the camaraderie, trust and friendships. Too many people were moving in too many directions and having to put focus into different things. There's no point in debating whether change was good or bad, change is simply that, change. We make of it what we can.
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Gioco_Di_Ruolo - 9-5-2008 at 08:19 PM
Tal, Hesprit
I thank You for Your words here…They show the wisdoms of a Man who throw the years has earned My respect.. although We may not of seen eye to eye on many issues I do take note that the fact We have always respected each others right to view things as We do.. I thank You for the u2u and I was not part of That time (the time that is being spoken of here) on Maze as I had already left Maze by then. I was of Gorchat or other sites while these actions where being carried out.. Now I am a honest believer that a Man speaks better in His actions and many will note the change in site of My home… NOT of any thing being said here of Issues of this day that just where not met in a timely fashion, or a prudent solution given.. The simple fact is My home called a vote and it was time to leave rather than try to address our needs that where not being met.. A simple Gorean solution was made.. We of Kassars are just that and have no interest in site political battles… its not the site that makes a Gorean it’s the Man and His actions…
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Gioco_Di_Ruolo - 9-5-2008 at 08:27 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Petorik
I would say * it is obvious you are not of the old Goreans * nor were you involved prior to the mass exodus away from Webmaze… Brought about by the underhandedness of both Buddha and Ragnar…
Your assumptions are wrong of Me.. I per date those troubles and had already left Maze back then Once before to live on Gorchat… I guess I made the correct actions...
so No I was not involed with that mess, Laughs
[Edited on 9-6-2008 by Gioco_Di_Ruolo]
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TSO - 9-6-2008 at 02:18 AM
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[Edited on 9-6-2008 by Gioco_Di_Ruolo]
so Your now in PG not wm as Ubar of Kassar wm? a simple question seeing Your sig line that reads:
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Plain acknowledgment for I feel I am in my home Red Shield Camp, Kassars, PG
I wish you well!
[Edited on 9-6-2008 by TSO]
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Gioco_Di_Ruolo - 9-6-2008 at 06:24 AM
Tal The Silent One
Laughs, I am of Red Shield Camp, Kassars, PG.... But still have a paid membership to wm that I guess I'll use for av storage...
being there was a Kassar and a Darkside of Kassar on whochat of PG..I went to the books and came up with a whochat name Red Shield Camp or The Blood People..
The site admin felt The Red Shield Camp was a better name..
I sorta liked them both but made no difference its still Kassars just named that way to clear whochat confussions..
I wish You well
Gio
[Edited on 9-6-2008 by Gioco_Di_Ruolo]
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TSO - 9-6-2008 at 08:18 AM
Mi§tral , Petorik
and Hesprit are very Old Goreans Whom I Respect..Their Wisdom , and knowledge I always read..IWYW then Gio.. in Your new endeavour on Pure Gor..what type of Kassar Home will it be? I dont travel unless Our Proprietor allows Me to, was just curious as Im sure Many are..best of luck in Your new Home and site it resides on..ka dish day..ego ga han.I also wish You well Gio..as always..ashoge for the clarifacation..II do hope You will post some quotes to teach Others on the thread I implemented awhile back..Im interested in the knowledge of this area..Ashoge for Your reply and time Gio!
T§O
Varnell§ §cribe and Recordkeeper
WETP AR
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Gioco_Di_Ruolo - 9-6-2008 at 08:53 AM
Tal The Silent One
I mean no disrespect to Mi§tral , Petorik or Hesprit.. I simple am stating a site has noting to do with a Home or the Goreans within it..only appling the per set ideals and philiosophies within the books to Our lifes makes Us Gorean or not...
if I am in My car driving to work I am still Gorean.. it makes no matter the car I drive...as long as it runs correctly, LOL
I wish You well
Gio
I will not go into great detail on all aspects of this thread, but a few things do need to be addressed.
Certainly there was a falling out at Maze years ago. Looking back, it would have been easier to remain silent instead of making a stand for what was right then... and that remains unchanged to this day. Was it fun or enjoyable? No. But it needed to be done. I suppose it is always easier to just mingle in with a herd than it is to make a stand. There was no underhandedness, no plotting, no agenda, on Buddha's part or my own. There were issues.... I took a stand.... Buddha reviewed the entire matter and made a ruling. That ruling was not flattering to the ringleaders of the herd and they bailed in a hurry followed by the weaker members of the herd who were so used to being led around by the nose it was just natural for them to continue to do so. The rest is history. Of those that left Maze, I do believe that without the hand holding, the special favors, etc.... only one room still remains from those days and that is Turia. All the other rooms died off or simply vanished. Some may have been restarted and restructured, but they were not as they were on Maze. What is done, is done, and though very unpleasant, I would not hesitate to do it all over again were it possible to turn back time.
As far as Gio's needs not being met here on Maze... and I guess that is his reason for leaving... I am not really sure as he, like others, just sneak off and appear on another site overnight. I do ask those who seek to relocate rooms to Maze inform their site they are leaving. It just seems the right thing to do. Whether they always do or not rests upon them.
I feel both Maze and myself went far and above the norm for sites and staff in meeting Gio's needs... as well as the needs of everyone in general. Gio approached me sometime ago regarding moving his room to Maze. We discussed the situation and he decided to do so and work began on his room while he was to inform Pure Gor he was leaving due to their Admin butting in where he felt they should not be, in a nutshell.
The room was created and basics set up. He provided me with an entry which I put in place after discussing Site Policies with him regarding visitors and observers... and he was to purchase the membership required for the room by week's end.
It seems rt must have taken him as the room sat unattended without word from him. I allowed the room to stay open for several weeks until finally, with no word from him, I made the room invisible.
He pops back up and inquires about his room, and informed me RT did in fact take him... but now he was back and wished to proceed. I brought the room back visible within a few minutes and reminded him he would still need to purchase his membership for the room.
Weeks passed and stil no membership... yet the room remained open while we carried him. I understand RT can be nasty at times so he was given the benefit of the doubt and he was trusted on his word to settle up. I got responses of how he had forgot... that the bank was closed... how it was coming on Monday... then the unfortunate passing of a family member. As such is not the time to be demanding monies I let it slide another couple weeks.
WEBMAZE has never been about the money, but a membership is required to show some sort of commitment to operating a room.
Finally a short term membership was purchased, and Gio wished his list of pulldowns added for his room. I asked him to send me the text of what he wanted and I would put them in. He offered to code them all up and I politely declined as it is much easier to simply code pulldowns myself than it is to go through and check the coding done by another. What did I get? Pulldowns coded... the opposite of what was requested.... and coded incorrectly to boot.
Rather than kick them back to him and ask him to resubmit them as they were requested, I did the extra work and put his pulldowns in for him. Finally all seemed well.
About a week or so ago he asked what the requirements were to obtain mod status. He was informed five paid memberships to his room and/or good room traffic that would justify the need for a mod. That was all that was said.
I guess an anon came in and said something unpleasant in his room, so he came into the room passing himself off as ADMIN. As far as I know he made no posts as Admin, but only entered as ADMIN. I had to inform him this was a no-no as that could be seen as impersonating site Admin. I do not remember what was said by the anony so it must not have been anythng drastic or stellar. Most would just ignore it and continue. After all... we are supposed to be adults. As such we just accept some people are challenged in the maturity department and we just ignore them and move on.
As far as meeting the needs of his room, or his needs, Maze and myself went beyond what can be considered the norm. People have to realise there is also such a thing as a two way street. Very lil is asked of room leades or chatters, yet for some reason, some feel it is all about them and to hell with everything and everyone else.
If Gio refers to his needs not being met due to the site being down, Buddha is addressing this matter. Every site will have its issues at some time or another. None are happy when it happens to their site... but rest assured it does happen. Maze was the most stable site for over a decade.... now it is our turn to have problems. This too shall pass and another site or more will have issues. It is just the way of things it seems.
What I can take from this:
Not to take people at their word... as their word and actions seldom coincide.
When requests are made by staff and a room leader fails to meet those requests, do not fix things myself. Kick it back to the room leader and wait until they submit things as requested.
If it involves memberships, get the money first. If service is rendered before payment is collected, there will never be an urgency to settle a debt.
When a room leader disrupts my roleplay to speak with me or make a request, tell them to post it to the support board. Taking time out from my own role play to hold a hand is not appreciated... it is demanded.
When told "X" number of paid memberships are on the way... refer to the first lesson to be taken about taking people at their word.
Will I take these lessons to heart? No. I will not place everyone in the same category as Gioco. I will continue to try and help people and give them a break even when they make my life tougher and don't listen. LOL
Thats just the way I am.
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Mi§tral - 9-9-2008 at 10:54 PM
Hes,
Not to flog a dead horse, but no matter how you spin it ... wrong is wrong!!!
This has already garnered more attention than I had intended, and I won't give any more time to a dead site than I already have.
Petorik, good to see you.
Hes, good to see you as well.
Gio, Gorchat was a place I'd been at it's inception.
I don't brag about it for good reason.
I didn't stay, and had a good long fight with the ghost that ran it.
I certainly am glad that I made up with Des before her passing.
My point is that Old Gorean is a relative term.
There are people that have been around allot longer than I ... I don't however consider them Gorean!
By the way I don't judge people by which site they are part of ... I judge them on thier behaviour, and their company.
I could go on and on and on about WM the people that run the Gorean Section what have you to what end?
Nothing is going to change ... so let them play with their toys, and I'll play with mine.
Now you have a good day ....... or NOT!
I certainly agree that wrong is wrong. That is why I made the stand I did and I do not regret taking the side of what was right. You and the others... on the other hand... either wished to continue the crap that was taking place or were just to weak to make a stand, or too afraid to lose your popularity. So your lies and continued crap still is spewed at every opportunity. Face it... it is pretty much a dead issue... for none of you would dare stand up and actually confess to the games and lies you committed without losing what lil respect some still do hold for you... misplaced though it is.
Maze may not be as crowded as it once was... but there is also blessings in that as well. We do not have to contend with the likes of you as well as the sheer volume of children a few sites do. We live our venue quite well and continue pretty much as we always have.
There is a partially true statement... though misplaced. There are a couple who have been around HTNL Gor longer than you or I... that are not gorean. Certainly... knowing you as I do.... you fail to make the grade real time, virtual time, or anytime. Sure... you play your lil fantasy game with your girl whenever the two of you can sneak off to get the time together, and the two of you spout off a great deal about how gorean you are, but that is pretty much where it ends.
I do not judge by site either... nor do I judge by the company people keep. I may not like someone but I do not hold a friendship with one i dislike against another I do. I look at the individual and decide for myself alone if I wish to associate with them. Aside from slapping you around like a spoiled child when the mood occasionally arises just to have a chuckle... I do not miss associating with your ilk at all.
So yes.... go run along and play. Gor is still alive on Maze. Gor is still alive in Tuchuk after all these years.
That is more than can be said for your own many failed and abandoned play rooms through the years.
You may still fool some people... but never for a moment forget... you no long fool myself or as many as you once did.
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Our Main Reason Of The Move Was The Site Was Down For Days And There Was No One To Remove Unwanted People From Our Home.
Sign
Baraki
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Agreed...moving because of being down for extended periods of time provides nothing but frustration and disgust...how can one r/p if the site is down??
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Ok all I see is people bitching and complaining about this and that...I know why there was a move and well I agree with Master Gio there was noone around when there was someone that have to be removed, I was placed in to the camp cause my Master Nic thought it was the best and what time I was in the camp I did enjoy...while the sight was up which was not much I think there was only two or three days. Now Master Gio did find a place to RP on chat suites and well everyone seemed to stuck up to go there which is an insult to me for the is my RT Husbands/Masters site...
he is the System admin there it’s a lot better the play there then any where besides on PG where people at lest treat You better as well as they do not make a stupid flipping rule where You have to have 5 room members before You can get the boots....to me that is bull shit hell if You buy the room then that should get the boots all WM seems to care about is the money and nothing more. Normally my words are more chosen and a lot less ummmm...
harsh but I am sorry everyone but a few seem to think that Master Gio did this over night I do not beleave that I can see that this was a long time coming cause of WM selfish ways....
Love, live and die
ilori
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agreed....having a site being down can be frustrating...But in the time I have been here on Maze...
over 10 years...I can honestly tell you the site has not been down that much.
But can you name any other site out there that has not at one time had technical
problems and had gone down?
dont think so...
As for the "Rule"..I expect your room leader (Gio) knew of that rule from the get go...as everyone who applies for a room is told this and he still took the room...It was his choice..he went with it.
As for no one around to remove unwanted people from your room....
No moderator or Staff on any site is around 24-7...and no site Admin expects
this of any of their Staff and Mods. We have lives outside of rp play too.
That is why that handy dandy IGNORE feature is in all the rooms...on every site.
Now...you made the choice to move to whatever site...for your reasons...just enjoy it..
(modified for one spelling error...hey..I'm getting better!)
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I can name a few sites that have not been down as of Yet, hell I use to play on WM a lot about when I first started out then the rooms varnished or died off so I went to different places to play but that along time ago.
Gio is not my Master I was pawned out to his Camp to help me with some things and well it did.. When he could help me.
As I said before I am sorry if this stuff is coming off snippy or mean it is not how it is ment
Live, Love ,Die
ilori
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well, i was asked my opinion on whether the room should leave or stay and i voted to leave...not that my opinion matters as opinions are like @holes, everyone has one, but seeing as everyone else has posted theirs figured i would add mine.....so...my dislikes were that the room was down several times, at least every second day....yes at times it was only minutes but is was down a lot....another was that there was someone that would come in and post obscenities, disrupt role-play and just be plain out rude to anyone in the room and would come in over and over and over no matter how much we ignored them...this went on for quite a long time, and i know that no site has 24/7 moderation but this was definite harassment...another was that the site has little traffic anymore...not calling down that site at all just simply stating a fact...so we decided that webmaze was not right for us...i didn't think that it was anything to get angry over or for anyone to argue about or call anyone down over...webmaze made some money and we moved to someplace that better suited our needs, didn't think their would be such hard feelings....anyways, i wish webmaze the best and hope that the hard feelings end there....wishes Eeveryone well....
just my two cents.....
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he is the System admin there it’s a lot better the play there then any where besides on PG where people at lest treat You better as well as they do not make a stupid flipping rule where You have to have 5 room members before You can get the boots....to me that is bull shit hell if You buy the room then that should get the boots all WM seems to care about is the money and nothing more. Normally my words are more chosen and a lot less ummmm...
harsh but I am sorry everyone but a few seem to think that Master Gio did this over night I do not beleave that I can see that this was a long time coming cause of WM selfish ways....
Love, live and die
ilori
That BS hell, as you call it might apply on a site where you do have to "buy" your room. WM is not a site where you have autonomy because you bought a room.
I have been chatting on WM for pretty darn close to 10 years. 5 paid members in a room for each set of "boots" that room has has always been the policy on Maze for all that time. It is NOT a new thing just to persecute those of your room.
Y'all moved on. I am happy for you. I, personally promise to miss you if it will make your life better. *snort* Just don't whine about a site where your room's Leader knew the Site's policies before a room was set up for him, then was given lots of leeway because of his personal issues without those basic policies being enforced. His method of thanking WM for that extra mile given, well, was to say the least, tacky and inconsiderate.
Buh bye.
woobie
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What I find hilarious, is that I was online when the "Admin" thing happened. When Gio went into his room to proclaim he was admin with an anonymous. Gio has my ICQ and my MSN, and is aware that in fact, I am a Moderator to webmaze. I didn't get so much as a ping on my messengers saying "Hey. I need some help here." Not a single word. So if anyone wants to blame anybody for the "problems" in Kassar that went unresolved because there was no moderator online? Well I guess you all can blame Gioco for that, because I was online. I'm almost always online except for the times when I am asleep. And you can pretty much find me in MTC at all hours of the day. If not, then my messengers are up.
The idea that they left because they couldn't get a moderator is bullshit. The only reason why you all are so angry over the fact that the site keeps going down, is because for the MONTHS Kassar was up as a room before the site crashes began...it stayed empty. No one was ever in there. It was set as invisible, until Gio returned. And then he returned, and it was brought back up, and all was good, until it started crashing. Well I am sorry, servers lose power at times, sites do crash. Just because you personally have not been on the site while it has crashed, doesn't mean it didn't crash. When the bear shits in the forest, and no one is there to see it.. Does it still shit? Ayup, it sure does. We never asked for any of your opinions on this matter. Gio couldn't even be bothered to post his beef with Maze on these boards, nope, he chose somewhere else to post his issues. And in return, Ragnar posts his defense here, because it is a Webmaze issue as it seems to be a problem against Webmaze and Webmaze policies.
So you all go play on whatever site you found that is absolutely perfect, pay your 120 dollars to have your room and moderator. And when GIO isn't online to boot, and no one else is either when you have problems? I'll guess we'll see you again when you move your room once more.
Amber
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It is nice to see the females predominantly trying to fight Gio's lil skirmishes for him. But try to color this incident as you will... it does come down to one thing that touched all this off.
Vanishing from Maze.... sneaking out.
The site ups and downs right now was not confined just to Gio's room. I do realise it may be difficult for some of you to grasp. but it has affected all of Maze... my own room included. I do not staff from an out of touch position. I am in my room just as much if not more than anyone else on Maze, and likely more than many people across the web. I too hear the grumblings and growls from my room members as well as others when their staff contacts are not online.
The role play, discussions, etc, are also interupted by the site going down in my room. Even posting the message boards are interupted. This was not a Gio persectution exclusively.
I did go way out of my way to try and see to every need voiced by Gio as well as those not voiced. I will not however grant special treatment to anyone in direct violation of Maze policies. I can and do at times stretch them to the breaking point to try and accommodate people, as all situations are a bit different in some way. The site policies do allow some leeway for this. But blatantly voiding a site policy for one person will likely not happen on my watch.
Some people change sites like underwear... rooms as well. That is inherent to this venue.
As a room leader, first and foremost, I am very much in touch with the needs of a room and its members. Never doubt that for an instant.
The times Gio reported things to me, I looked into them, checked the logs, all that good tedious stuff. The results were one ban, and the other was an isolated thing that having boots would have done nothing to change. More could have actually been accomplished by ignore than by creating a bigger attraction by a gag or boot.
Moderator status is not magic. One does not need boots to chat. Some just think they are a magical chat device granting total power and without them chat can not take place. This is incorrect. Yes... they are a tool and do come in handy when properly applied. From looking at the logs, how things progressed and the end result... odds are good had Gio had boot powers and used them, he would have been called on the carpet. Maze does have a set of guidelines for using boots and the gag tools.
Looking at Gio obtaining boots... there are two ways to obtain them in Maze. Memberships being one. And just to pretty much offset the accusations it is all about money... the second way is to have enough room traffic to warrant boots. This has no bearing on money. This is simply having a room attractive enough to draw in people thus creating room activity and productivity. Gio's room was growing. It was starting to become a productive room... and in my judgement, had it continued, I would have likely set up a time to get with him to go over the moderator policies, get him going on the mod consol, and he would have had his boots. Naturally... both memberships and activity is the ideal scenario... but either/or can earn a room boots.
The bottom line in all of this is the fact Gio left without so much as a "kiss my ass".
There is nothing acceptable about that.
As a room leader I am well aware of all the factors involved in a room and seeing to its needs. All Gio had to do was even drop me an IM stating he felt the need to leave Maze for a site that was a bit more stable regarding downtime. I can understand this and accept this. It is not burning any bridges... it causes no hard feelings... it is not slamming or insulting to any site. It is simply a necessary decision made in his eyes that is best for his room and members.
It is just that simple.
I should not have to find out a room has left Maze by reading it on another site's message board, or checking a whochat. No site staff or admin should have to learn of a room moving in such a way. NONE!!!
When rooms wish to relocate to Maze, I do ask them to inform their current site. I give them an idea of when the room will be up and operational so they are not left without a home during the move. Whether they do or not rests on them. I do not hold Merci to blame for this in any way. As a matter of fact I have worked with her on a couple of occasions regarding a couple of situations, and I found her extremely approachable and a pleasure to work with!!!
The story of being offline, etc, does not fly in regards to informing me. I saw Gio in his room on PG. He had time to drop me a line. He has me on Q... there is the Maze Board IM feature... Though not the greatest option there is even the support thread on the boards where he could have requested his room on Maze be closed.
Bottom line... it is the sneaking off without word that trips my trigger.
It pisses me off on a Staff level when it is done by room leaders....
It pisses me off when done by members of my room...
As I am sure it pisses others off when people just vanish only to turn up elsewhere without a word.
Alot of bullshit could be avoided by everyone if just a lil bit of this so called gorean honor and honesty... ideals and principles.... actually were used and communications made over comings and goings.
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Honor.
What does that mean?
Many people post many topics wanting a learning experience and further discussions with other members of their room or other rooms to promote an educational and informative environment.
Some of the people that like to post lengthy topics or deep thoughts, love to post, as if saying..."look at me, I promote deep thoughts on the philosophy of Gor". Bosk shit. You can be educated. You can call yourself a "Master". You may even think you are a Dom in real life. Quit fooling yourself. You are just another schmoe sitting behind the screen living a fantasy on the virtual world of the internet. BUT, even though people live two seperate lives, there is one common factor that can cross the rt/vt line.
Honor.
Honor has various meanings to various people. Honor is a "way" of life, a discipline of moral advancement intended to further the formatin of a mature, balanced and integrated personality, of a man at peace with himself and in harmony with his social and his natural environment.
In Bushido, a warrior is one who has a thorough understanding of the qualities of right and wrong and knows how to do one and avoid the other. Right and wrong are good and evil. Plain and simple, you know your honor, you know right and wrong.
When someone gives their word, they are expected to keep it. Moral fiber is something people like to piss on because they think they can. If you can wake up in the morning and look in the mirror and have no regrets from the previous day, then you are on the path to morality. That means doing something right, even when there is no one around to see what you are doing, but you still make the right choice.
*I quirk a brow and look around* Not many understand that something like Honor, can cross rt and vt, but it can. People say, actions speak louder than words. Though this may be true, none can judge your actions, only you can. You must decide for yourself, if your actions were just and right and true, or were unfair and wrong and false.
Honor.
That is a heavy concept. Something that you should be proud of, something to hold your head up to. Can you hold your head up to your honor? Do you feel pride in who you are and what you are? Are you happy with your actions and they were just and honorable? Walk with pride, especially if you are leader because if you call yourself a leader, then you lead by example. If you lurk in the shadows and hide and sneak about, committing underhanded deals, then guess what those who look up to you will do? Are you being fair to them?
I have had word prior that this issue will be dealt with in a respectful and honorable manner. I have yet to see it resolved or that word kept. I have seen everyone else come out of the woodwork in defense, I have not seen the originator.
Honor.
I reiterate, a heavy concept.
Steel and Honor.
I wish you well.
Raziel of Tuchuk.
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ok.... let me first start off by saying that I am posting this straight from my own mouth, this is Liz here.... my words my thoughs
This thread should be locked.
why? because we are only breeding more fodder for the fire.
I will not speak of the friend ship that I had with Gio or anyting from anyones personal lives. I have made my peace with Gio. that is between he and I. I said what needed said and now Ive let it go.
But this posting has to stop.
Sure there may have been drama way in the past, but see this from my eyes, I have been on maze for what... A year and a half? I was not here when all of this happened... so in my eyes it never did.... I was not here to witness it so I just really dont give a urts ass...
What I do see is...
1. A man that posted something in apparent "support" of our site....
2. A WM Staff that found out some information by readin said post.
3. A WM staff who then clarafied the situation for chatters of his site, making his peace with it all.
4. A man with a guilty karma that is posting this shit all over the place...
for my final words.... Give it up.... Everyone is entitled to their own opionin... I know how I feel.... I know what I think is right and wrong.... but I am not posting my feelings and thoughts on sites all over the place...
If Gio feels that he did no wrong, fine so be it, it will weigh heavy on his heart, not mine... and not ours... AR does not need to hear about it... PG does not need to hear about it... and now that a little time has passed and everything is said and done and everyone has made their final peace... WM no longer needs to hear about it.
Liz.
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Everyone is entitled to their own opionin
and opinions are like assholes...everyone has one...and as long as they keep it clean...
their posts i mean...they can continue to post.
There has been no nasty name calling...no site bashing from here...
It has come from that other one on 2 different site boards...and a few of his cohorts who came to post..
which I thank them for registering to the board to just post this thread and upping the board numbers by 3 people!...lol
I will tell you this...and it is a fact...
I met most of these folk rt and if they really wanted to unleash..my self included...
we would have to take the board down...lol
actually...this thread is quite tame to what that other person has been spouting over two different site boards...
Have a nice day/evening...
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Oh yes it is very tame. Not even one mention of the word "asshat" or "Gorean douchebag" -beams brightly-
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*looks at Amber and just cracks uP*
You forgot f**knugget....
indeed~
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RAGNAR all I can say again is I am sorry the home moved I did what I felt was correct for the home..This had no barring on a personal level till Your post was Made and Yes I didn’t contact You as I stated I was offline for 3 days and then was missing the times You are on.. and Yes I wished to talk with You about the move in IM and explain the feeling of the room.. But before that could happen You posted.. That’s Your actions not Mine simply put.. btw as I see Your appear offline on icq most of the time..
Amber if I have Your contacts as You claim the I have no clue who You are on My im lists.. Gioco_Di_Ruolo@hotmail.com on icq 444583893 I only have 4 names on icq RAGNAR, Hell Cat, silence, ember…You could be on My msn as I have many names there if so I am sorry I don’t know Your contact there.. and if You where online the only person showing on whois was ER in the coffee Shop when this took place…
Tal Raziel
I just wanted to thank You for that post..
Tal Shoko
Nods I did try and support wm..
Those Others have their own issues with WebMaze and I stood up for the site..
But all that doesn’t matter now.. I guess
Tal -TT-
It would serve no good to “take the wall down” as You said
Not for Me or WebMaze or Yourself or anyone here..
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Gio.. I am Hell Cat, and you've talked to me on both ICQ and MSN before. I figured you would know who was who on at least your ICQ, as it's not hard to rename people there for their chatnames rather than their stated nicknames. And, it is not difficult to click on my profile and see all of my messenger contact information. But anyway. I wish you well. Webmaze has either fixed their problems, or the server it was on, has fixed it's problems as -knock on wood- It has been behaving. But ah well. You've already left, impatience won over Honor in this case.
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Hell Cat I am truely sorry I didn't know that truely...
I wish You well
Gio
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RAGNAR all I can say again is I am sorry the home moved I did what I felt was correct for the home..This had no barring on a personal level till Your post was Made and Yes I didn’t contact You as I stated I was offline for 3 days and then was missing the times You are on.. and Yes I wished to talk with You about the move in IM and explain the feeling of the room.. But before that could happen You posted.. That’s Your actions not Mine simply put.. btw as I see Your appear offline on icq most of the time..
Amber if I have Your contacts as You claim the I have no clue who You are on My im lists.. Gioco_Di_Ruolo@hotmail.com on icq 444583893 I only have 4 names on icq RAGNAR, Hell Cat, silence, ember…You could be on My msn as I have many names there if so I am sorry I don’t know Your contact there.. and if You where online the only person showing on whois was ER in the coffee Shop when this took place…
Tal Raziel
I just wanted to thank You for that post..
Tal Shoko
Nods I did try and support wm..
Those Others have their own issues with WebMaze and I stood up for the site..
But all that doesn’t matter now.. I guess
Tal -TT-
It would serve no good to “take the wall down” as You said
Not for Me or WebMaze or Yourself or anyone here..
Gio: I snuck out in the dark of night figuring I could get away with it Ha ha ha ha...
RAGNAR: *Calls Gio on his accountability*
Gio: Everyone is to blame but me!!! Whine snort stomp cry pout....
AR: Who cares. Just go away.
Gio: Everyone is to blame but me!!! Whine snort stomp cry pout....
PG: Who cares. Grow up and move on.
Gio: Everyone is to blame but me!!! Whine snort stomp cry pout....
PG: Who cares. Grow up and move on.
Gio: Whine snort stomp cry pout....
PG: Who cares. Grow up and move on.
Gor: Gio blew it. Ignore his crying.
Gio: Whine snort stomp cry pout....
Gio: Whine snort stomp cry pout....
Gio: Whine snort stomp cry pout....
Gio: Everyone is to blame but me!!! Whine snort stomp cry pout....
RAGNAR: Save it Gio. Your tall tale does not jive with the facts. Cut your losses and move on.
Stay tuned for the next episode of "Gioco Steps On His Dick"....
When you will hear Gio say:
Gio: Whine snort stomp cry pout....
Gio: Everyone is to blame but me!!! Whine snort stomp cry pout....
Gio: Whine snort stomp cry pout....
Gio: Everyone is to blame but me!!! Whine snort stomp cry pout....
You have a room elsewhere... you burnt your bridge to ever return to Maze... just go do your thing now.
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Is that the best You have Ragnar? To make shit up..Oh that’s right your good at that sorry I forgot.. you proved nothing to Me but what I already learned of you..Now you want to post My real time info and think that’s ok? Its logged and saved to cd along with this post you made..Now the fact is very little is stopping Me of clearing this matter up very fast…
You better think about your actions boy and yes I can call you boy because I have already done more than you’ll ever be..
All you did with that post is show what kind of lack headship maze gor is under…
I hope for Maze that will change..
From here on this is between Me and You..You said Your piece now for years You will hear Mine… There is no where on html You will hide..
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AND STILL!!!!
no mentions of the words asshat, gorean douchebag, or f**knugget!
YAY~
My Beloved is learning diplomacy... who woulda thunk it.. Sandar would be so proud!
*howling*
*scrams*
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UHm. -tilts head, looking everything over again- I don't see any real time info. -scrolls- Nope. No phone number, no real name, no address, no shoe size... Hmm. Gio? Kinda curious here. Where do you see your real time info? Unless "Whine, snort, stomp, cry, pout" is your real name? Which I know it isn't, because you told me what it was on Q. So.... Yeah. Good for you. You saved the post.. to cd. OOOooOooOooo. Scary!
-pauses, looks at woobie-
Oh! I want a gold star! I haven't done it either! -does the gimme hands- I make pretty baby...AND don't use those two words!
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does not say anything.. comes in and kneels at the feet of the
Masters and Mistresses, his family and friends..
actions telling where his great heart lies and his loyalty
dakota{property of Tira}
Overseen by Nexhais
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Is that the best You have Ragnar? To make shit up..Oh that’s right your good at that sorry I forgot.. you proved nothing to Me but what I already learned of you..Now you want to post My real time info and think that’s ok? Its logged and saved to cd along with this post you made..Now the fact is very little is stopping Me of clearing this matter up very fast…
You better think about your actions boy and yes I can call you boy because I have already done more than you’ll ever be..
All you did with that post is show what kind of lack headship maze gor is under…
I hope for Maze that will change..
From here on this is between Me and You..You said Your piece now for years You will hear Mine… There is no where on html You will hide..
And this is supposed to be the part where I am expected to get all scared and be impressed right?
I mean, like none have ever before called another boy or issued threat?
You are a legend in your own mind.
I am not hard to find.
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-face palms-
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(http://www.webmaze.com/memberpages/prism/hb4shutup.jpg)
LOL!
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I had chatted on WebMaze way back when and always wenjoyed the camaraderie here. I met a lot of fine people back then and even in the past two times I chatted on WebMaze. If people do not like to chat on a site or how things are they should not go there. Also, if people do not have anything nice to say about others then they should say nothing at all.
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Tal rickbulow74
I will not cut down the site nor most of the people here My issue is with Ragnar's first post that started this thread where He shared some of My off line info.. I think there are some awesome people here and Yes some are standing up for the site But I am not attacking a site I am how ever addressing actions of Ragnars...
And Yes I moved our room as I was out voted 11 to 1 and Yes I didn’t contact Ragnar No I didn’t That He was correct in saying..What My point is here most of the first post of His when I came back online is filled ”With Him saying I was making excuses” and sharing things I said to Him in confidence out on a open forum plain and simple.. Those are “private” and should not be posted on a forum.. that is not whining it should be common since..
OK..I am talking with you in IM you tell Me your husband or wife was fucking around on you and I stroll out and post it on the forums here or else where so how I just know your going to have issues with Me.. The death and the others things discussed are no ones business and dam sure not something a Head admin of the Gor section on a site should be posting to try and make someone look bad.. its totally bs.
That is My sole issue here..
Is that the best You have Ragnar? To make shit up..Oh that’s right your good at that sorry I forgot.. you proved nothing to Me but what I already learned of you..Now you want to post My real time info and think that’s ok? Its logged and saved to cd along with this post you made..Now the fact is very little is stopping Me of clearing this matter up very fast…
You better think about your actions boy and yes I can call you boy because I have already done more than you’ll ever be..
All you did with that post is show what kind of lack headship maze gor is under…
I hope for Maze that will change..
From here on this is between Me and You..You said Your piece now for years You will hear Mine… There is no where on html You will hide..
And this is supposed to be the part where I am expected to get all scared and be impressed right?
I mean, like none have ever before called another boy or issued threat?
You are a legend in your own mind.
I am not hard to find.
Tal Ragnar
I am not hard to find. LOL
Your funny and what is that a attempted to make you look tough..
The thing is I don’t have to find you at all.. I have to do is share my experience of your actions here within this thread..
I wish You well
Gio
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Tal rickbulow74
I will not cut down the site nor most of the people here My issue is with Ragnar's first post that started this thread where He shared some of My off line info.. I think there are some awesome people here and Yes some are standing up for the site But I am not attacking a site I am how ever addressing actions of Ragnars...
And Yes I moved our room as I was out voted 11 to 1 and Yes I didn’t contact Ragnar No I didn’t That He was correct in saying..What My point is here most of the first post of His when I came back online is filled ”With Him saying I was making excuses” and sharing things I said to Him in confidence out on a open forum plain and simple.. Those are “private” and should not be posted on a forum.. that is not whining it should be common since..
OK..I am talking with you in IM you tell Me your husband or wife was fucking around on you and I stroll out and post it on the forums here or else where so how I just know your going to have issues with Me.. The death and the others things discussed are no ones business and dam sure not something a Head admin of the Gor section on a site should be posting to try and make someone look bad.. its totally bs.
That is My sole issue here..
Is that the best You have Ragnar? To make shit up..Oh that’s right your good at that sorry I forgot.. you proved nothing to Me but what I already learned of you..Now you want to post My real time info and think that’s ok? Its logged and saved to cd along with this post you made..Now the fact is very little is stopping Me of clearing this matter up very fast…
You better think about your actions boy and yes I can call you boy because I have already done more than you’ll ever be..
All you did with that post is show what kind of lack headship maze gor is under…
I hope for Maze that will change..
From here on this is between Me and You..You said Your piece now for years You will hear Mine… There is no where on html You will hide..
And this is supposed to be the part where I am expected to get all scared and be impressed right?
I mean, like none have ever before called another boy or issued threat?
You are a legend in your own mind.
I am not hard to find.
Tal Ragnar
I am not hard to find. LOL
Your funny and what is that a attempted to make you look tough..
The thing is I don’t have to find you at all.. I have to do is share my experience of your actions here within this thread..
I wish You well
Gio
Just be sure to tell them the entire story... of how you were carried for months and how you were negligent in living up to your end of the agreement, even when Maze bent over backwards to make life enjoyable for you and your home.
I doubt you will find much sympathy. Most of the gorean general populace does pay what they agree to and do make their intentions known to staff and admin.
Maze has always taken people at their word in regards to memberships and opening rooms. Your actions are a prime example why many sites out there wish to see the funds and/or memberships before opening the room. I can now full appreciate their side after dealing with you.
I can fully understand why you would not wish others to know you are a deadbeat and a sneak... and as such why you would seek to transfer the blame for all of this unfortunate situation onto my shoulders.
Sadly.... once again.... your post pretty much just comes across as, "Everyone is to blame but me!!! Whine snort stomp cry pout.... "
So just go right ahead with your threat to tell everyone all about this situation.... just be sure to tell it all.
Now.... I have wasted enough time on you from the minute you came to me seeking a room and badmouthing the admin of PG... having to recode your pulldowns.... bringing your room up and down... listening to you whine about boots.... wading through all your whinning on the boards.... and now having had to watch you shift gears when I did not go running scared.
So go do whatever it is you feel you have to do. I really do not care. You are just not worth anymore of my time. At least kicking a dead horse might place a shine on the toe of my boot. Kicking you... well... what ends up on my boot certainly does not pass for a shine.
Bye bye.
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Ragnar: Just be sure to tell them the entire story... of how you were carried for months and how you were negligent in living up to your end of the agreement, even when Maze bent over backwards to make life enjoyable for you and your home.
Gio: Yes I came to Maze and Yes Maze did wait for My memberships..
Two memberships where made for Kassar Mine and noonsgirl..
Who name last I looked was under Your home.. and had more membership willing to buy TIL things where not handled as per the site crashing and the troubles of people that needed removed..
You say We where whining No You want money then make sure
Things are done in a correct fashion.. I can not make My members
Pay for something they saw first hand not being handled..
That not whining that’s just good business sence..
You want to say it was Me that dropped the ball.. when it was the lack
Of action of the site and its admin after I did come to You and talk with You twice as You even pointed out..
Ragnar: I doubt you will find much sympathy. Most of the gorean general populace does pay what they agree to and do make their intentions known to staff and admin.
Gio::What I find is the Goreans at large telling Me..Your a very big part of the troubles of Maze Gor.. and by Your actions in these thread I can see why..
Ragnar::Maze has always taken people at their word in regards to memberships and opening rooms. Your actions are a prime example why many sites out there wish to see the funds and/or memberships before opening the room. I can now full appreciate their side after dealing with you.
Gio::again memberships where made and the fact that My members where not happy with the services they received at that time mostly no boots.. Oh just use iggy didn’t cut it with them…
Ragnar:I can fully understand why you would not wish others to know you are a deadbeat and a sneak... and as such why you would seek to transfer the blame for all of this unfortunate situation onto my shoulders.
Gio: I am no deadbeat I done more for Gor online and html chat they You can ever dream of.. The fact is You dropped the ball and You want to stand Here and puff Yourself up and say bluh bluh..
Ragnar:: Sadly.... once again.... your post pretty much just comes across as, "Everyone is to blame but me!!! Whine snort stomp cry pout.... "
Gio:: You know what My fault is in this dealing with You at all..So many Goreans out there asked Me, OMG why RagMaze.. I stood up for Maze and Maze Gor.. Now that My room moves You want to try and cut Me down..Who’s the one that sounds cheap here???
Ragnar::So just go right ahead with your threat to tell everyone all about this situation.... just be sure to tell it all.
Gio::No see they can read it right here in Your own actions..
Ragnar:::Now.... I have wasted enough time on you from the minute you came to me seeking a room and badmouthing the admin of PG... having to recode your pulldowns.... bringing your room up and down... listening to you whine about boots.... wading through all your whinning on the boards.... and now having had to watch you shift gears when I did not go running scared.
Gio::The pulldowns You have whined about that how many times now that just goes to show why My people wanted to leave with a head admin who does nothing but whine about work done…
Ragnar:::So go do whatever it is you feel you have to do. I really do not care. You are just not worth anymore of my time. At least kicking a dead horse might place a shine on the toe of my boot. Kicking you... well... what ends up on my boot certainly does not pass for a shine.
Bye bye.
Gio:::The fact is You’re the head admin suck it up Man and do Your tasks to better Maze Gor.. I truly hope and wish that Maze Gor will come back But as long as You act as You are it will not..It will remain Ragmaze to Goreans not WebMaze..
You have a good day or not
Gio
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OMFG!! Buddha, Master RAGNAR, I am sorry, but I can't sit here and listen to this drivel anymore without bursting at the seams.. LOL ... If that means that one or both of you end up spanking me in some fashion later.. I acknowledge and accept that as a fact.. *G*
Gio: Yes I came to Maze and Yes Maze did wait for My memberships..
Two memberships where made for Kassar Mine and noonsgirl..
Who name last I looked was under Your home.. and had more membership willing to buy TIL things where not handled as per the site crashing and the troubles of people that needed removed..
You say We where whining No You want money then make sure
Things are done in a correct fashion.. I can not make My members
Pay for something they saw first hand not being handled..
That not whining that’s just good business sence..
Maze waited a LONG time .. A LONG time Mister... for you to make good on buying ANY membership, even ONE for your room and then after your room had been OPEN for around 3 monthes, you finally purchased a 3 MONTH MEMBERSHIP. You didn't have any intentions of taking care of your end of the agreements as far as I can see, or you would have backpaid that membership and also bought more than a 3 month deal. As for noonsgirl, SHE moved her membership after she had to deal with you and your horsehockey and she didn't want her membership to remain in YOUR room. And THAT happened the DAY after she bought it!! My Master felt badly for her because of all your crap you pulled on her. He has a "Hands off" policy for other rooms, and even though he didn't like it, he left it to pan out as it would.
All those promises of your membership, and at least 5 or 6 others came BEFORE the site started having any crash problems. As far as what your members saw as not being handled, Buddha said numerous times that he was working on the crash issue.
For a man who wants everything RIGHT NOW YESTERDAY, you sure are s**t slow on the part that means YOU have to contribute something.
NewsFLASH... My Master has no control over the site going down. Buddha really has no control over the carrier going down except to look into alternative carriers, WHICH HE HAS BEEN DOING.
You want to say it was Me that dropped the ball.. when it was the lack
Of action of the site and its admin after I did come to You and talk with You twice as You even pointed out..
I did go way out of my way to try and see to every need voiced by Gio as well as those not voiced. I will not however grant special treatment to anyone in direct violation of Maze policies. I can and do at times stretch them to the breaking point to try and accommodate people, as all situations are a bit different in some way. The site policies do allow some leeway for this. But blatantly voiding a site policy for one person will likely not happen on my watch.
The times Gio reported things to me, I looked into them, checked the logs, all that good tedious stuff. The results were one ban, and the other was an isolated thing that having boots would have done nothing to change. More could have actually been accomplished by ignore than by creating a bigger attraction by a gag or boot.
Moderator status is not magic. One does not need boots to chat. Some just think they are a magical chat device granting total power and without them chat can not take place. This is incorrect. Yes... they are a tool and do come in handy when properly applied. From looking at the logs, how things progressed and the end result... odds are good had Gio had boot powers and used them, he would have been called on the carpet. Maze does have a set of guidelines for using boots and the gag tools.
What else did you want handled RIGHT NOW YESTERDAY? Your ass wiped too??
Gio::again memberships where made and the fact that My members where not happy with the services they received at that time mostly no boots.. Oh just use iggy didn’t cut it with them…
SEE ABOVE.. ONE membership (your 3 MONTH zinger) does not give automatic boots. You were told that when you requested the room. YOU KNEW the guidelines for that WHEN you asked for a room. ALL the room guidelines, including memberships, requirements, pulldowns, all the stuff needed for room operation WERE EXPLAINED to you in detail. If you were unable to comprehend those requirements, etc., you should have asked for clearer explanations. You didn't.. It was more like.. yah yah yah, gimme a room already, I will get my membership, I will follow the guidelines, I understand it all, yah yah yah, is my room open now ?
PAY ATTENTION THIS TIME: BOOTS become available when a room has 5 paid memberships, and/or when there is sufficient traffic in that room to warrant someone there having a set of boots. BOOTS are NOT issued to NON-PAID members. .. SOOOOooooOOOOooo.. until you finally coughed up your membership, you didn't have any right to any.
YOU DID THAT TO YOUR ROOM. NO ONE ELSE.
Gio: I am no deadbeat I done more for Gor online and html chat they You can ever dream of.. The fact is You dropped the ball and You want to stand Here and puff Yourself up and say bluh bluh..
You wanted a baby, you got a baby, you didn't want to buy diapers, you left your baby. Someone else can take care of your mess. THAT IS A DEADBEAT. LOL
What exactly have you done for Gor? I had no clue you existed on Gor at all till you came to Webmaze and I have been here for over 10 years as the same character. You keep spouting this stuff and yet I see no evidence of your greatness.
Gio:: You know what My fault is in this dealing with You at all..So many Goreans out there asked Me, OMG why RagMaze.. I stood up for Maze and Maze Gor.. Now that My room moves You want to try and cut Me down..Who’s the one that sounds cheap here???
My ass.. You came to Webmaze because you were mad at Carole and Pure Gor.. It was a "I'll show them, I'll move to Webmaze and see how they like it when their site crumbles" bulls**t move. Guess what. It didn't work then. . and now that you are mad at Maze, you pull the same thing, smarming back up to Carole and Pure Gor.. and GUESS WHAT.. it isn't gonna work here either. You don't stand up for anyone or anything unless you stand to make something out of the deal.
Gio::The pulldowns You have whined about that how many times now that just goes to show why My people wanted to leave with a head admin who does nothing but whine about work done…
Oh, yeah, your freakin' pulldowns... You asked for pulldowns. You were told to submit a SIMPLE LIST of what you wanted them to say. YOU were asked to NOT CODE them, because there are specific codings for MAZE and to do them once was easier for Master than to have to undo yours and do them over in the specifics for Maze. Did you do that? NOoooOOOo.. because you don't understand simple directions.. You sent them coded. Ragnar had to uncode them and recode them and STILL YOU GOT THEM expediently (that means fast) .. within 24 hours of the request being made. EVERYTHING YOU ASKED for.. your front page, your pulldowns, everything you would come into TUCHUK and ask for.. YOU GOT..
EXCEPT boots.. oh yeah, we went over your whining about boots.
Gio:::The fact is You’re the head admin suck it up Man and do Your tasks to better Maze Gor.. I truly hope and wish that Maze Gor will come back But as long as You act as You are it will not..It will remain Ragmaze to Goreans not WebMaze..
For someone who didn't have time to tell anyone about leaving, you had time to set up the whole room, entry pages, etc at Pure Gor, but I digress.. ( That means I stopped to vent on an old idea)
He does his tasks.. He did everything he was required to do for you and then a LOT more than he was required to do for you.
You are behaving like a simpering whining child.. How long before you get mad at Pure Gor and stomp out on them again and then sit and badmouth them to the next site you try to climb into?
It is a repeated soap opera and I for one am freakin' sick and tired of it.. Try changing your channel. Try changing yourself. Try being ADULT and living up to your responsibilities and your word and your agreements. Try meaning it when you make a promise. Try fulfilling your part of business agreements without trying to shove all the blame for that lack onto anyone standing nearby..
TRY HONOR and INTEGRITY... Look them up in the dictionary, because I know you don't understand those words either.
I don't wish you a nice day or not (By the way, Mistrel should bill you for using his tag line)
I wish you a lobotomy.
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Gio...
I know I already talked this over with you in MSN...
But... seriously now...
STFU & GTFO
-Me
p.s. I apolgise if I broke the rule.... but I didnt use A**hat... but its ok if I loose out on my gold star.
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Ok seriously.. Gonna lose my star....
Leave us alone Asshat.
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*huggles up Amber and Sighs*
Woobie is totally gonna be dissapointed in us...
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*Burps*
Now I dont want to have to have this discussion again.
Raz
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Please try to rein in the insults.
I know the temptation is great with numerous opportunity.
But please try anyway.
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*sighs*
Hasn't this dead horse been beaten enough?
Why can't we just let it stay dead?
NightStorm
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looks at the board... see's this constant dribbling mess. looks at Rags.... He knows that twitch all too well...
This all boils down to one thing.... a simple unabaited temper tantrum thrown by those that feel that they can NOT control the enviroment in which they have chosen to make an online existance in. You are simply dealing with technology of which no one in truth will ever have complete control in. there is NOT one site... be it AR, Creativity Chat, pure Gor and its sisters, GorChat, Ameeshia, Xenochat, Mainhall, Chateau Whisper, Atlantis something or the other, Chat Castle, Dark Shades of Reality, Dark World, World Star, Mirc, IRC, Yahoo, or anything of the others that I could name if I wanted to waste any further time that at one time or another has not had a site down for whatever reason. The point blank thing is this. someone decided they didn't like the rules....they didn't like having to be ... OMGosh..... PATIENT. Scarey concept paitence...and then they like to be ruled by emotions and hurt pride. WHATEVERRRRRRRRRRR......... if your going to be an adult then I trust you to act as such. with that comes the requirement of acting with tact and dignity instead of mudslinging and wallowing in manure. Gio .... you've made a decision.... live with the decision you made... leave the boards and Maze.... do not return.... you are apparently no longer welcomed here.... as are NONE of the peoples that you claim voted to leave maze.... the rest of Maze.... do not waste perfectly good time that can be spent on the site in role play or in real time over something as trivial and meanlingless as this mess.. its simply not worth the energy that is having to be applied. now with that said....... Who's up for castrating bosk....
smiles with that simple basic Shys ready to go back to work look
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And this is supposed to be the part where I am expected to get all scared and be impressed right?
I mean, like none have ever before called another boy or issued threat?
You are a legend in your own mind.
I am not hard to find.
Ummmm Gio.... I don't see any sidestepping on his part. Just a lot of wind blowing on yours.
Maybe that is what you want though, eh? To poke at the dragon till it spits fire at you. Ah yes, that is a good game.. *nod nod nod*
You pick the fight, and I'll pop the popcorn, boil the cauldron of water, and sit back to watch... and when it is all said and done, we can change your name to Mat, or Bob.. *lol*..
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Gio.... I thank you for taking that down...
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Gio.... I thank you for taking that down...
Administrative Posting;
My thanks Shoko but no..... let everyone see how Gio continues to fuel this matter.
This is what Gio posted and thought was so funny. It was saved and documented.
(http://www.webmaze.com/memberpages/ragnar/gf83.jpg)
This is now moving into the realm of harassment and will not be tolerated for much longer.
It is also noted he posted the same thing on the wall over at PG and then editted it for whatever reason.
Some times I like to read them..thats all I have to say...Grins
« Last Edit: Today at 08:17:00 pm by Gioco_Di_Ruolo »
The grin notation is noted and it does seem he is trying to be cute about it.
WEBMAZE is not accustomed to such childish games in its Gor Section and this does display Gio's overall mindset in this situation.
I had hoped to be finished with this thread, but due to his actions I have no choice but to make an administrative posting.
RAGNAR
WEBMAZE Staff
Gorean Section
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You are behaving like a simpering whining child.. How long before you get mad at Pure Gor and stomp out on them again and then sit and badmouth them to the next site you try to climb into?
8 days.. LMAO~
'nuff said..
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wheres the twit at now
Administrative Warning
As harmless as it seems there will be no unfounded name calling.
WEBMAZE does expect a higher standard from its chatters.
My thanks.
RAGNAR
WEBMAZE Staff
Gorean Section
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dear kadi..
ermmm... we aren't allowed to call him a twit.. that is name-calling... and as for where he went,
I am not gonna be advertising other sites here.
*hugs*
woobie
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kadi is most sorry for calling him a name she will remember not to name call anymore on the boards
dear prism she understands
hugs
kadi
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I do understand passions run high not only in Gor but other sections as well when we have strong feelings regarding a matter. We just have to try and police ourselves better.
*Huggers* :-* ;)
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Gio-
Seems to me the admin here did as they always do and that is to set you up w/ your requests.
Webmaze to my experience has never just handed out boots, nor anything until you EARN them and show you are going to be a part for the long haul.
I cannot say I agree w/ any and all here all the time, but it is about time you act like a fucking man and pair up, Gio.
Why would you go on about this? This is doing nothing for you and allow me to point out if you do do this on PG as well, w/ this little bit of fiasco in your history you will be Gor'ing in the Siberia of sites and yes, it will be deserved.
Now shush and one last question eh?
Now that you are gone why do you keep returning here or this board?
Do you not have a home/room and members w/ memberships to see to? To look after? Seems you have a lot of free time on your hands. Learn what your priorities are.
Raphzul
Civitatis Ar - Taurentian Military
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*gah!*
from the PURE GOR message board:
Removed is built -The site about You or you
« on: October 16, 2008, 04:09:17 pm »
Removed is built -The site about Y/you... Removed reg email is slow and flash chat- non rpg chats and cam rooms will be up next week..your welcome and thank you its free life time membership so join now ... non rpg chats
« Last Edit: October 17, 2008, 09:15:41 pm by Gioco_Di_Ruolo » Logged
My new Removed its free life time membership so join now
Apparently his priority is to open a porn site. LOL
egawds... *face palms*
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its not even a porn site... its supposed to be some kind of D/s dating site or something like that... or at least thats what he told me when he gave me the link...
what ever happened to Removed?
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sniffs the air..... a new site like this.... well if they wanted a D/S dating site... theres always Removed and Removed .... as well as a thousand other places if people need to get into that....
but i just want to remind people with caution.. know what the hell you are getting into before committing to something this deep...... remember. several of the unknown wound up in 55 gallon barrels at the bottom of a pond over some moron called Slave Master
Shy
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Removed is useless.
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Tal Shy
sniffs the air..... a new site like this.... well if they wanted a D/S dating site... theres always Removed and Removed .... as well as a thousand other places if people need to get into that....
but i just want to remind people with caution.. know what the hell you are getting into before committing to something this deep...... remember. several of the unknown wound up in 55 gallon barrels at the bottom of a pond over some moron called Slave Master
Shy
Great advice to any and all…
Tal Salem
Removed is useless again I agree..
If Your Gorean Removed will reject You…
Removed has one section for the Gorean lifestyles on a message board and if You speak up to the bdsm posters on that forum Your reminded that it’s a bdsm site first basically…
As for Removed ..
With that I am off to deal with My home and talk with people..
I wish You well or not..
Gio
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Why was everything Removed? I didn't think our site regulations were so strict that we now have to make sure we don't mention other websites at all in our posts.
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Why was everything Removed? I didn't think our site regulations were so strict that we now have to make sure we don't mention other websites at all in our posts.
One, we do not advertise other sites that do not reciprocate.
Two, I really don't feel like dealing with site slighting... or the temptation to do so by posters.
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Tal Ragnar
(http://www.webmaze.com/memberpages/ragnar/gf83.jpg)
This very picture was taken from Webmaze wall back in 1999 or 2000 when it was posted.. the Ubar of Tyros name was where Gio's is and My past char's name where Yours is..
*gah!*
from the PURE GOR message board:
Removed is built -The site about You or you
« on: October 16, 2008, 04:09:17 pm »
Removed is built -The site about Y/you... Removed reg email is slow and flash chat- non rpg chats and cam rooms will be up next week..your welcome and thank you its free life time membership so join now ... non rpg chats
« Last Edit: October 17, 2008, 09:15:41 pm by Gioco_Di_Ruolo » Logged
My new Removed its free life time membership so join now
Apparently his priority is to open a porn site. LOL
egawds... *face palms*
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Why was everything Removed? I didn't think our site regulations were so strict that we now have to make sure we don't mention other websites at all in our posts.
One, we do not advertise other sites that do not reciprocate.
Two, I really don't feel like dealing with site slighting... or the temptation to do so by posters.
ok this has been up how long? sence October 21, 2008 today is what?
Thank You Ragnar for correcting these posts.. You did the right thing...
I wish You well
Gio
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In the same respects Gio, Salem and Shylina's posts were there since October, and then you suddenly come back here to respond to them early this morning, so you really cannot blast Ragnar for suddenly paying attention to this thread after it had remained dormant so long, when you suddenly post to it after a month and a half.
Cheers!
Amber
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Tal Amber
I have been offline since late oct. only on a few times to clean out mail do to My health and a move back in My own home.. So I posted to it as soon as I saw it.. The fact is the other post where well placed before Mine.. So I guess I'll have to make sure to post to ever thread
so it will get read and then edited if need be eh?
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why not just take a long walk of a short plank or better still go play on M6 in rush hour even better post on your own sites boards
kadi
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Until now it has been quiet...
someone needed attention..
it was good while it lasted
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Tal Amber
I have been offline since late oct. only on a few times to clean out mail do to My health and a move back in My own home.. So I posted to it as soon as I saw it.. The fact is the other post where well placed before Mine.. So I guess I'll have to make sure to post to ever thread
so it will get read and then edited if need be eh?
Better yet...
Remove yourself from these boards and solve the problem. All subsequent posts made by you will be deleted.
I am tired of playing your silly games.