my thoughts

[ravyn{Mari}Sr.-Mat]

   Ever since i first came to this chat, have felt like an outsider, looking in. Even my character did not seem to mesh with the slaves, it seemed the main girls, like flame and jade, had each other. I know many of you have chatted here for years together, and have established relationships. Am trying to find my niche, which was why, even though new, i attempted to get my Sr tags early and succeeded. Then just a few days, and yes i know it was deserved to loose them, i did after having a bad day at camp. It was hard on my character to climb back up, dust off and to think about trying again. Am very proud of the camp collar yes, but in my heart i seek a personal collar, and do not see that happening anytime soon. Everyone seems to have a personal slave already, except for a few Free. I know that does not define me as a slave, i understand that, i do. Just not sure camp is where i belong, as i have struggled to find my place there. Not that i mind doing chores or serving, but camp is also about spending time with Family and as of late, ravyn has not, maybe that is my own fault, and need to try harder. I just needed to express my feelings here, to the people i have grown to care about. Am not trying to complain either, am just lost lately, my character anyways. i gather i place too many of my real emotions when i role play, it is hard not to for me, anyways. I gather i need to learn to separate the two in order to move forwards from this point. Forgive the rant, and Happy Easter.

[Medi]

...I am just a Guest here, now, but this was my first Home, hun.  One thing about r/p I can say, is NEVER enter when you have had a bad r/t time.  Your emotions will carry over, and you will pay the price, I know, my first char paid the ultimate price.  That said, one must be patient, and enjoy the journey through the r/p.  I met a wonderful FW, and Panthered with her for a while, and then an even more wonderful Man met me, and we had the most wonderful r/p and some r/t interactions, until he died, r/t.  I moved on, and learned, and am content where I am, and feel honored that I am welcomed here with the Tuchuk.  You never know what will happen next, or when a new char will enter.  As to being a Camp slave, I understand, but Camp slaves are an attraction to FM who may be checking out the Camp.  I was a Camp slave in my first char, and really didn't understand the honor I was given to remain one.  A Camp slave has a lot of freedom, and can flirt and play with anyone she wishes.  Just serve well, with a hot slave belly, and you will do well...the Ubara Nexias advised me...I pass it on to you...*S*....And, HAPPY EASTER!   He has risen!

[flame{NS}]

 ravyn i understand where you are coming from...when i first got here and up until jade came into my life..i always felt like i was an outsider..chanz and kadi where together..prism and lure were together.they seem to have someone that they could go to and talk to.. and i felt left out...i did not think that i had anyone that i could go to and just talk..and i wanted so bad to just fit in... it took me awhile to relize that i could go to anyone of them and spill my guts out..it did not matter if it was vt or rt .. they all would take time out to listen to me and give me advise when needed ...a personal collar is great and i would not change that for anything...but a camp collar is also great..think of it this way.. you have been choosen to be Master Ubars slave even though you are in a camp collar.. you are His...the highest ranking Master in camp.. that would be an honor...i know i have been calling jade my true and yes she is..we hit it off right from the start.. but that doesnt mean that i or the rest of our sisters will EVER push you out of our family.. you are stuck with us.. so get use to it lol.. in this camp Home we are all family and we all look out for each other.....you can come to any one Free or slave and we all will listen to you... and i will try my best to do better..maybe we can start doing some chores together or do something off the wall..just give us a chance..  i love each Free and slave that is in this Home.. i have been here for years.. and i would not go any where else ( well unless my Mistress went).. i hope that i have made you feel better.. we do love you. and Happy Easter



love you

da flame

[hope{MTC}-Sr. Mat]

~hugs~ ravyn... i know it is hard hang in there.

i recently had the same issue as you did with it seems the others just wanted nothing to do with me. but i felt it come from both sides of the collar, meaning slave and free alike. i spoke with the Ubar. did it help? i don't know at this time, time will tell.

i also brought up the camp collar thing. i really don't feel i really got an answer on that.

[RAGNAR]

Some may not place any value on a camp collar. Some are wise enough to see the value in it, and the liberties it often affords. Any slave can be placed in a personal collar. But that does not mean the slave will have an opportunity to grow, it does not mean the slave will be valued. It does not mean that their Owner will not vanish, leaving the slave abandoned. Those are just three of many things to consider... and three things that does not happen in a camp collar.

You may just become a status symbol, and otherwise ignored by your Owner. Gor is filled with such. There is no set amount of time a slave remains in a camp collar. BUT... your duty is to learn, and attract the eye of a free. My duty is to see training is provided giving you the basic tools to use to draw the eye of a free. Then, I try to make sure you, as a slave are as polished and as pleasing as possible, and the interested free is knowledgeable enough to remain dominant in the Owner/slave relationship... is regular enough to be in and responsible for the slave... to make sure they seem compatible... and basically to do everything I can to ensure the relationship lasts and does not collapse within a few weeks.

There is more to it than just slapping a collar on a girl and claiming to be a Master. That works great in the books... not so much vt and certainly not rt.

Just remember, it is not a race to a finish line. There IS NO finish. Gor, and MTC, is a world in which the journey with all its twists, turns, and even mistakes help make us all who we are rt and vt. More often than not, what we discover along the way in camp can relate directly, and indirectly to circumstances we encounter in our daily lives. Speed does not impress anyone. It is what is learned and retained along the way that is important.

There are never any guarantees with a personal collar, or any collar for that matter, aside from those that come with a camp collar. So long as the camp remains, so does all the security that comes with it for a girl. Given our longevity, that is as great if not greater than any other home in Gor today. Would you rather know you have a place, or just be collared upon entry and try your luck with whatever comes?

[ravyn{Mari}Sr.-Mat]

ravyn appreciates all the replies, and have given her much good advice and words of wisdom to think upon. The only thing can say in reply to the personal collar sought, that ravyn seeks a Mistress. It is One that caught her eye from the very same day, she was captured and made a camp slave. So, can only hope in time, shall catch Her eye back and become Her property by showing diligence in learning to be Sr Mat and then pagar. This is a goal ravyn has, and thank everyone for caring, making me feel a part of this place and people have come to look at as family.

[flame{NS}]

sis you keep looking and acting pleasing and serving your heart out to everyone. and i know that EVERYONE is watching you.. and how beautiful you have become..you are a good slave.. you have the heart..just keep it up. and when time comes someone will go to Master Ubar and talk to him...as slaves we do not have anything to do with that. that is between the Frees and Master Ubar...if you see any of us sisters in the room just come on over and jump right in.. join in the fun.. we do not want anyone to feel left out..it took me a long time to figures that out.. it was not them that was keeping me back.. it was me...it was me that had to do the jumping in...i have been a loner for a long time...and that is something that i had to get over....you are a part of this family now..( SO YOU ARE STUCK WITH US SO THERE LOL )... get use to it. smiles.. will see you in camp

[Shadow duck]

Agrees with flame you is stuck with us, we lub new vic....um bai.....um new sisters,,,,nods lots then saunters away humming...da da da da da da dadadadadada.....( jaws theme...hehehehe)