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WWTD ((What Would Tarl Do))
« on: February 18, 2008, 01:17:31 AM »
On Communicating the Truth of Things


"I know of no language in which the truth may be spoken. The truth can be seen, and felt, and known, but I  do not think it may be spoken. Each of us learns it, but none of us, I think, can tell another what it is." -Tarl Cabot page 145 Hunters of Gor


             On the Pettiness of Earth Concerns


"On another world, lit by the same star, in another place, dawn, too, drew near, and men awoke. These were the  men without meaning, so full and so empty, so crowded, so desolate, so busy, so needlessly occupied. These were the gray men, the hurrying men, the efficient, smug,  tragic insects, noiseless on soft feet, in the billion iron hills of technology. How few of them gazed ever upon the stars? Is grandeur so fearful that men must shield themselves with pettiness from its glory; do they shut their eyes lest they see gods?"  -Tarl Cabot, Marauders of Gor


               On the Need for Cultural Truth


"Culture decides what is truth, but truth, unfortunately, is unaware of this. Cultures, mad and blind, can die upon the rocks of truth. Why can truth not be the foundation of culture, rather than its nemesis? Can one not build upon the stone cliffs of reality rather than dash one's head against them?"  -Tarl Cabot page 11, Explorers of Gor


                On the Gorean View of Earth


"You may judge and scorn Goreans if you wish. Know as well, however, that they judge and scorn you... Hate them for their pride and power. They will pity you for your shame and weakness."  -Tarl Cabot page.11, Beasts of Gor


              On the Weakness of Earth Males


"I think there are few men on Earth who can, or will, answer the cry of the slave in women."  -Tarl Cabot page 372, Mercenaries of Gor


             On the Prerogatives of Ownership


"One owns slaves and commands them. One does what one likes with them. One does not bargain with them."  -Tarl Cabot page 365, Mercenaries of Gor


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Re: WWTD ((What Would Tarl Do))
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2008, 01:18:16 AM »
On Gorean Strength


"One may be rational, perhaps, without being weak."  -Tarl Cabot page 8, Beasts of Gor


     On the Manner in Which a Gorean Views the World


"The Gorean, in general, regards many things in a much more intense and personal way than, say, the informed man of Earth. Perhaps that is because he is the victim of a more primitive state of consciousness; perhaps, on the other hand, we have forgotten things which he has not. Perhaps the world speaks only to those who are prepared to listen... The man of Earth thinks of the world as being essentially dead; the Gorean thinks of his world as being essentially alive... He cares for his world; it is his friend; he would not care to kill it."  -Tarl Cabot pages 29-30, Beasts of Gor

                 On the Benefit of Vigilance


"The knife is no less a knife because it makes no sound."  -Tarl Cabot page 236, Magicians of Gor


                     On Gorean Honor


"It is seldom wise, incidentally, to impugn, or attempt to manipulate, the honor of a Gorean." -Tarl Cabot page 297, Mercenaries of Gor


                On the Actions of a Warrior


"I have fought, but so, too, might a tarn fly and a kailla run."  -Tarl Cabot page343, Renegades of Gor


               On the Acquisition of Property


"I am of the Warriors. I will take by the sword what women please me."  -Tarl Cabot page 348, Beasts of Gor


          On the Requirements of being a Warrior

"You may think that to be a warrior is to be large, or strong, and to be skilled with weapons, to have a blade at your hip, to know the grasp of the spear, to wear the scarlet, to know the fitting of the iron helm upon one's countenance, but these are things are not truly needful; they are not, truely what makes one man a warrior and another not. Many men are strong, and large, and skilled with weapons. Any man might, if he dared, don the scarlet and gird himself with weapons. Any man might place upon his brow the helm of iron. But it is not the scarlet, not the steel, not the helm which makes a warrior. It is the codes." -Tarl Cabot page340, Beasts of Gor



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Re: WWTD ((What Would Tarl Do))
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2008, 01:19:05 AM »
On the Gorean Woman's Need for Love


"The most fundamental property prized by Goreans in  women, I suppose, though little is said about it, is her need for love, and her capacity for love. How much does she need love? And how deep and loving is she? That is the kind of woman a man wants, ultimately, one who is helplessly and totally love's captive, in his collar."  -Tarl Cabot page 322, Mercenaries of Gor


        On Truly Discerning a Woman's Slave-Needs

"It is true that sometimes strangers understand a woman better than those closest to her, and see what she is, and needs. They see her more directly, more as herself, and less through their own distorting lenses, lenses they themselves have ground, lenses which show her not as she is but as they require her to be." -Tarl Cabot page 201, Magicians of Gor


         On Punishment for a Repeated Command


"Punishment for having to repeat a command is always at the option of the Master. For example, a command might not be clearly heard, or might not be clear in itself, or might appear inconsistent with the Master's presumed intentions. Whether punishment is in order or not is then a matter for judgement on the Master's part." -Tarl Cabot page 198, Magicians of Gor


      On Female Response to the Presence of the Whip


"It is not so much, I think, that the lash, in such a situation, as a punishment, changes the woman's behavior, that she obeys because she does not wish to be whipped, but rather that the whip convinces her that she  is now free to be the sensuous, sexual, marvelous creature which she is in herself and has always desired to be. In this sense the whip does not oppress the woman but rather liberates her to be herself, wild, uninhibited, free in a sense, even though she may be bound in chains, and sexual. To be sure, the whip is also used to punish women, and they do fear it, and mightily, for such a reason."-Tarl Cabot page 197, Magicians of Gor


        On the Response of an Intelligent Slave to her
                          Bondage


"The intelligence and sensitivity of many women actually tends to blossom in bondage, finding within it the apt environment for its expression, for its flowering. This may have to do with such matters as the release of inhibitions, happiness, fulfillment, and such."-Tarl Cabot page 194, Magicians of Gor



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Re: WWTD ((What Would Tarl Do))
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2008, 01:19:48 AM »
On the Use of Propaganda to Conquer Cities


"It is like seeing a larl tricked into destroying himself... as though he were told the only good larl is a sick, apologetic, self-suspecting, guilt-ridden larl. It is like vulos legislating for tarns, the end of which legislation is the death of the tarn, or its transformation into something new, something reduced, pathological and sick, celebrated then as the true tarn... the larl makes a poor verr... The tarn makes a pathetic vulo. Cannot you imagine it hunching down, and pretending to be little and weak? Is the image not revolting? Why is it not soaring among the cliffs, uttering its challenge scream to the skies? ...The beast who was born to live on flesh is not to be nourished on the nibblings of urts."-Tarl Cabot pages 173-174, Magicians of Gor


               On Gorean Trust and Loyalty


"Goreans are not stupid. It is difficult to fool them more than once. They tend to remember... there would always be the dupes, of one sort or another, and the  opportunists, and the cowards, with their rationalizations. But, too, I speculated, there would be those of Ar to whom the Home Stone was a Home Stone, and not a mere rock, not a piece of meaningless earth." -Tarl Cabot page 489, Magicians of Gor


                    On Gorean Honesty


"It might also be noted, interestingly, that the Gorean, in spite of his awe of Priest-Kings, and the reverence he accords them, the gods of his world, does not think of them as having formed the world, nor of the world being  in some sense consequent upon their will. Rather the  Priest-Kings are seen as being its children, too, like sleen,  and rain and man. A last observation having to do with the tendency of some Goreans to accept illusions and such as reality is that the Gorean tends to take such things as honor and truth very seriously. Given his culture and background, his values, he is often easier to impose upon than would be many others. For example, he is likely, at least upon occasion, to be an easier mark for the fraud and charletan than a more suspicious, cynical fellow. On the other hand, I do not encourage lying to Goreans. They do not like it." -Tarl Cabot page 255, Magicians of Gor


                 On the Rights of Discipline


"The discipline of a slave may be attended to by any free person, otherwise she might do much what she wished,  provided only her Master did not learn of it. The legal principle is clear, and has been upheld in several courts, in several cities, including Ar." -Tarl Cabot, page 122, Magicians of Gor


                  On the Politics of Slaves


"...in a group of female slaves, for example, in a pleasure gardens, a fortress or a tavern, there will usually be a girl  appointed First Girl. Indeed, if there is a large number of slaves, there are sometimes heirarchies of 'first girls,' lower-level first girls reporting to higher-level first girls, and so on. The lower-level girls will commonly address their first girl as 'Mistress.'" -Tarl Cabot, page 123, Magicians of Gor


                    On the Use of Slaves


"...one of the utilities of a slave, of course, is to occasionally serve as the helpless object upon which the Master may vent his dissatisfaction, his frustration or anger. Too, of course, they may serve many other related purposes, such as the relief of tensions, to relax oneself and even to calm oneself for clear thought."-Tarl Cabot, page 134, Magicians of Gor


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Re: WWTD ((What Would Tarl Do))
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2008, 01:20:22 AM »
On the Rights of Slaves


"Several weeks ago in Ar there had been some attempts upon the part of the Ubarate, as a social-control procedure, to facilitate its governance, a venture doubtless emanating from Cos, which had reason to fear an alert, healthy foe, to reduce the vitality and virility of the men of Ar, to further crush and depress them...This was to be followed by legislation encouraging, and then apparently to later require, more modest garmenture for slaves. There were even suggestions of attempting to regulate the  relationships obtaining between Masters and slaves. There was some talk of greater 'respect' for slaves, that they  might be permitted to drink from the higher bowls at the public fountains, even the insanity that one might not be able to make use of them without their permission, thus turning the Master into a slave's slave...On the other hand the first straws testing the winds of Ar, cast in the streets, in the baths, in the taverns and markets, had been blown back with such fierceness that these castrative proposals had been immediately withdrawn...Revolution, I do not doubt, would have occurred in the city. The men of Ar would have died rather than give up at least the retained semblance of their manhood."  -Tarl Cabot, page 211-212, Magicians of Gor

                 On the Relations of Slaves


"Slave girls have much in common, such as their brands and collars, their typical garmentures, their entire condition and status, the sorts of labors they must perform, and the problems of pleasing masters. It is natural then, given such commonalities, and abused and despised by (many) free women, that they should often seek out one another's company. It is not unusual to see them together, for example, laundering at the stream side or long basins, or sitting about in a circle, mending or sewing, or polishing silver. Sometimes they arrange their errands so that they may accompany one another. Sometimes, too, in the abundance of free time enjoyed by most urban slaves, they simply wander about, seeing the city, chatting, exchanging gossip, and such... some of the pettiest of jealousies, the most absurd of resentments, the vilest of acrimonies and the most inveterate of hatreds can obtain among these beautiful, vain, vital creatures... This is particularly the case within the same house where contests often rage, sometimes subtly and sometimes not, for the favor of the master... and there can be intense competitions... not only for such treasures as the master's attention and affections but for articles as ordinary as combs and brushes and prizes which, whatever may be their symbolic value, are often as small in themselves as a sweet or pastry." -Tarl Cabot, pages 220-221, Magicians of Gor

                  On Mastering a Slavegirl


"If one is in effect a slave oneself it is hard to be a strong master to one's female. It is much easier to rationalize one's weaknesses and struggle to view them as virtues."-Tarl Cabot, page 221, Magicians of Gor

    On the Memory of Slaves in Regard to their Place in
                          Society


"...slaves are not permitted to forget such things. It is up to them to remember them. Too, obviously one could claim to have forgotten the most elementary duties, tokens of respect, and such. Accordingly, forgetfulness does not excuse the commission of such acts. A slave seldom forgets them more than once. The whip is an excellent mnemonic device." -Tarl Cabot, page 223, Magicians of Gor

                 On the Art of True Mastery


"It is one thing to own a woman, and it is another to have her within the bonds of an excellent mastery."-Tarl Cabot, page 465, Magicians of Gor

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Re: WWTD ((What Would Tarl Do))
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2008, 09:52:56 AM »
Brother,

I have read and re-read your postings, and I can understand the desire to have Tarl's words posted, as well as the fundamental ideas of Gor-- those hearty truths which the idea of Gor is based on.  Quotes that speak of Truth, Honesty, Honor-- solid foundations of the Gorean that is in every Gorean heart in MTC. 

Also posted I found quotes of what it takes to be a Warrior, and the actions and rights of the aforementioned Gorean male.  Again, sound words and ideas, all of which are true.

I also took note of the quotes posted on slaves, their ownership, and their needs.  Again-- a large part of our Gorean society are those women and the occasional man who make up the backbone of Gor-- taking care of the most base of needs and tending the daily chores while doing the utmost to serve their collars to the fullest.

Now, Brother, let me challenge you... for in none of your postings did I see anything speaking to the strength of the Free Women of Gor.  We are your Mothers, Sisters, and Daughters through thick and through thin, helping to hold the tidings that bind Gor together.  Surely that is not a role that is easily cast aside? 

I know not what your experience with other Free Women of Gor might be, but I tell you this now, with the full love I have for my Sisters:  Tuchuk women are truely the prizes of Gor.  Haughty, proud, loving and possessing an understanding of our Family that is second to none.  We live by the Men of our home, knowing that they put their lives on the line daily for our protection, for the safety of their family; and, if it comes down to it, We would die by the Men of our Home.  We, as Free Women, particularly of this home, are blessed with the love and devotion of our slaves, for We see them as a cherished part of this family.  We are committed to making this Home work. 

So again I say, Brother-- let me challenge you.  *S*  Find quotes worthy of such Free Women, and show that you have as much faith in your Sisters as we have in you. 

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Re: WWTD ((What Would Tarl Do))
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2008, 11:07:34 AM »
me as a man well. obvious I will post quotes pertaining to men. why don't you dear Sis post quotes pertaining to FW.

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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2008, 07:31:41 PM »
I will start with the most obvious, Brother.

"A Free Woman is inordinately precious.  She is a thousand times, and more, above a mere slave."  Players of Gor

"Goreans, in their simplistic fashion, often contend, categorically, that man is naturally free and woman is naturally slave. But even for them the issues are more complex than these simple formulations would suggest. For example, there is no higher person, nor one more respected, than the Gorean free woman. Even a slaver who has captured a free woman often treats her with great solicitude until she is branded."  Hunters of Gor Book 8 Page 311“

A quote of the Free Women of your former Homestone-- I believe you mentioned you'd come from Torvaldsland the past evening.

"Come tonight to our hall, Champion,” said she.
The Blue Tooth did not gainsay her. The woman of the Jarl had spoken. Free women in the north have much power. The Jarl’s Woman, in the Kaissa of the north, is a more powerful piece than the Ubara in the Kaissa of the south. This is not to deny that the Ubara in the south, in fact, exercises as much or more power than her northern counterpart. It is only to recognize that her power in the south is less explicitly acknowledged."
Marauders of Gor Book 9 Page 191

“You cannot treat me badly,” I said. “You must treat me well.” I looked at him, boldly. “I have rights,” I said. “I am a free woman.”
Slave Girl of Gor Book 11 Page 92“

I do not need permission to speak,” she cried. “I am a free woman! I am not a slave!”
Fighting Slave of Gor Book 14 Page 38

“But remember,” he said, smiling, “it is slaves who are assessed and have prices. Free women are priceless.”
Kajira of Gor Book 19 Page 97

"The Lady Telitsia did not deign to respond to ths suggestion.  She could afford to ignore it, disdainfully.  She was not a slave, she was a free woman, and above whipping."  Players of Gor Page 135

" 'There is a difference' laughed Hassan, 'between the pride of a free woman and the pride of the slave girl. The pride of a free woman is the pride of a woman who feels herself to be the equal of a man. The pride of the slave girl is the pride of the girl who knows that no other woman is the equal of herself.' "
Book 10, Tribesmen of Gor, page 333

"Free women, in being free, command attention when they speak. It is their due."
Explorers of Gor - Page 354

"Free Gorean women, incidentally, enjoy a prestige and status which, it seems to me, is higher than that of the normal Earth woman."
Explorers of Gor - Page 459

"The free woman was a tall woman, large. She wore a great cape of fur, of white sea-sleen, thrown back to reveal the whiteness of her arms. Her kirtle was of the finest wool of Ar, dyed scarlet, with black trimmings. She wore two broaches, both carved of the horn of a kailiauk, mounted in gold. At her waist she wore a jeweled scabbard, protruding from which I saw the ornamented, twisted blade of a Turian dagger; free women of Torvaldsland commonly carry a knife; at her belt too, hung her scissors, and a ring of many keys, indicating that her hall contained many chests or doors; her hair was worn high, wrapped about a comb, matching the broaches, of the horn of kailiauk ; the fact that her hair was worn dressed indicated that she stood in companionship; the number of her keys, together with the scissors, indicated that she was mistress of a great house. She had gray eyes; her hair was dark; her face was cold and harsh."

And finally, though I take great pride in knowing I am a Free Woman, and particularly a Free Woman of THIS home, I know that I am far from infallable, and that I am Free because My Brothers allow it...

"Perhaps free women are incomprehensible. A Gorean saying came to mind, that the free woman is a riddle, the answer to which is the collar.
Magicians of Gor - Page 50

A few of the numerous quotes I have come across pertaining to FW.

















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Re: WWTD ((What Would Tarl Do))
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2008, 09:00:51 PM »
I inclined my head, "Lady," said I, acknowledging the introduction. To a free woman considerable deference is due, particularly to one such as the Lady Rowena, one obviously, at least hitherto, of high station.
Players of Gor - Page 12

This type of response, however, however natural on Earth in such a situation, would not be feasible on Gor in a slave. Gorean free women, of course, may do what they wish. The slave girl, on the other hand, does not compete with the master, but serves him.
Explorers of Gor - Page 39

Elizabeth, besides speaking boldly out on a large number of delicate civic, social and political issues, usually not regarded as the Province of the fairer sex, categorically refused to wear the cumbersome Robes of Concealment traditionally expected of the free woman. She still wore the brief, exciting leather of a Tuchuk wagon girl and, when striding the high bridges, her hair in the wind, she attracted much attention, not only, obviously, from the men, but from women, both slave and free.
Assassin of Gor - Page 74

… even girls who will be free companions, and never slaves, learn the preparation and serving of exotic dishes, the arts of walking, and standing and being beautiful, the care of a man's equipment, the love dances of their city, and so on.
Nomads of Gor - Page 63

She looked up at me in wonder, blood at her mouth. She had been cuffed.
"Did you strike me because I challenged your manhood?" she asked. "I did not really mean it. It is only that I was terribly angry. I did not think."
"You were not struck for such an absurd reason," I said. "You are, after all, a free woman, and free women are entitled to insult, and to attempt to demean and destroy men. It is one of their freedoms, unless men, of course, should decide to take it from them. You were struck, rather, because you were attempting to manipulate me."
Mercenaries of Gor - Page 422