Trivia Time

[Shadow duck]

lol yep figured that out after I had posted... Kur... they were either working with the ones in the steel transports and that female who thought she was the leader.. ** boy did she find out different... grins** umm weren't they in the mountains or desserts.. I know it was purty hard for any to find them as they could activate some kind of invisable thing or they blended in with the surroundings.. (( sorry doing the workin out while typing thing))... ok I give up.. next>>>>>lllloooolllll

[Thalia]

You're kinda-sorta hitting on the plot that LEAD to the Death Squad being sent. LOL  I'll give it to you!

The Kurii, led by Zarendargar aka Half-Ear, set up a stronghold in the Arctic, a giant metal fortress in the center of the frozen ocean which the Innuit called "The mountain (ice berg) that does not move."  The stronghold was to be the center of the Kurii invasion.  To maintain secrecy, they intended to drive the Innuit from the region by preventing the migration of a huge herd of tabuk (hell if I can remember what the herd was named, now!), thus starving the Innuit into relocating. 

Word of the missing tabuk herd and the ice berg that didn't move got back to Samos, the agent of Priest-Kings and Tarl Cabot's friend, and so of course Tarl went to investigate.  No sooner did he get to the North than he....

... soon met the female who thought she was the leader -- SHE was directing the construction efforts of a huge wall that was keeping the tabuk from crossing the ice.  Tarl had been drugged and abducted, along with other men, and forced to help build this barrier wall. Then an Innuit man, Imnak, and another of his friends, Rim, helped him overthrow the guards and breech the wall, allowing the herd through...

... and of course Tarl enslaved that woman who thought she was in charge, and renamed her Aubrey because Sidney was not a proper woman's name... Then he went on to save the day when he found and destroyed the Kurii compound, preventing the invasion...

... but not before he actually befriended Zarendargar, whom he believed died in the explosion...

... when really Zarendargar, Half-Ear, had fled to the Barrens. Because Zarendargar failed in his mission, the Kur sent a Death Squad after him, and Tarl went to warn Half-Ear.

It's a looong plot line that takes place over three books, I don't blame you for being fuzzy on it all!

Your go!

[Ayelen]

Herd of Tancred ... and the Kurii were feeding off that herd -winks-

[Thalia]

That's the one!!!!  Thank-you, my a-s!

[Shadow duck]

sakes you lots... well considering that I am doing most of tis from memory that is a good thing...lol proves it still works .... well sorta..lol

ok am gonna think hard on this for a question...

[RAGNAR]

Still thinking?

[Shadow duck]

what does the colours mean not only in the silks but the scars do they have any corrilation???

[kadi{MTC}]

white silk..................virgin
yellow silk.................been used
red silk.....................hot and horny kajira

scars

Red..............Courage
Camp................Purple
Trusted.............Yellow
Askai ................Blue
Council..................Lime
Ubar...............Green
Weapons Master............gray
Sa-Clan...................light blue
Dragon Brotherhood(only in MTC)redish brown like earth

[Thalia]

From a by-the-books Gorean standpoint, a slave girl may wear any color silk that her owner desires -- purple, pink, blue, flowered, striped -- with absolutely no meaning other than aesthetic value.  Perhaps the girl is extremely petite, and the floral pattern makes her seem even more feminine and delicate; perhaps she has a bold personality, and the stripes further catch the eye; perhaps she is olive skinned and dark-haired, and a pale color will set off a fine contrast.

Of course, there are also the terms "red silk" and "white silk" which indicate a non-virgin vs. a virgin.  Symbolically, white is innocent, red the color of virginal blood.

In contrast, the only Scar mentioned specially in Nomads was the red Courage Scar; Tarl was unable to "read" the meanings of the other colors -- the blue, yellow, black... In this context, the red seems reminiscent of blood spilled in battle, perhaps even a cultural carryover from the Caste color of the Warriors of the cities.

Aside from the red=blood connection, which is a very slight and conjectured connection, I see no relationship to the two, at all.

[Ayelen]

From a by-the-books Gorean standpoint, a slave girl may wear any color silk that her owner desires -- purple, pink, blue, flowered, striped -- with absolutely no meaning other than aesthetic value. 

Depending on the city, purple was frowned up because purple is the color denoting Priest-Kings (and the color of "clothing" slaves in the Sardar wore.  Too, slavers houses generally dressed their slaves in striped tunics.  As a general rule, slaves were not usually dressed in silks unless in attendance at a banquet, or dancing.

In contrast, the only Scar mentioned specially in Nomads was the red Courage Scar; Tarl was unable to "read" the meanings of the other colors -- the blue, yellow, black... In this context, the red seems reminiscent of blood spilled in battle, perhaps even a cultural carryover from the Caste color of the Warriors of the cities.

Scars like "Camp", "Trusted", "Council", "Sa-Clan", et al, are all onlinisms.  As you said, only the Courage Scar was mentioned as to its name and meaning; likely the other scars were not of real import with the need to be known.  Black could have denoted death (first kill?) like counting coup for the Savages.

Aside from the red=blood connection, which is a very slight and conjectured connection, I see no relationship to the two, at all.

Considering that Wagon Peoples do not ordinarily dress their slaves in silks -- but rather the curla, chatka, and kalmak -- there would be no intentional correlation at all!

[Thalia]

Oops!  I had forgotten about the mention in Book Three of slaves not usually being dressed in purple, and about the purple plastic tunics of the Muls of the Preist-Kings!  I just threw purple out there at random; green, I should have said. And yep, I was thinking more of dancing silks and specialty costumes worn of an evening when entertaining, than the tunics that would have been worn during the day, when a slave was working.

As for the last point I made -- I was meaning a possible connection between the red of the Courage Scar and the red of the "red silk" categorization, both having something to do with blood. Between actual red silken garments and the red of the curla and koora, I saw no correlation at all!

But then, I wasn't really sure quite what the question was asking, whether from an onlinism standpoint (one of those examine-the-onlinism sort of fun things) or from a Gorean one.  When in doubt, I go with what the books tell me! -grins-

[kadi{MTC}]

kadi went with what she learned in camp, didnt think about looking in the books
good ones sisters

[RAGNAR]

kadi went with what she learned in camp, didnt think about looking in the books
good ones sisters

A girl has not learned correctly. The scar codes and such for MTC were created for role play. They are nor were they ever passed off a being found in the books. I shall be speaking with a girl's Mistress regarding a girl's knowledge.

[kadi{MTC}]

a girl knows only the red scar was talked about in the books she was talking about onlinism which is what she took duckys question to mean, her mistake she is sorry

[Shadow duck]

as to the confussion... i did not specify should it be on line or in book.. but to be honest the scars and the silk colours are simalar... but they are for on line only that is what I learned I could be mistaken.. I will bow to the Masters decistion on this one ** but I belive that the first responce was correct**